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Mammie wants new computer ;) :)

Discussion in 'Nvidia' started by Skybuck Flying, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. Hello,

    Mammie wants new computer...

    I am not sure what mammie wants... but I know what I want... I want a quiet
    computer that can even play company of heroes without running hot or without
    behaving like a jet plane.

    So now a serious question to the audience:

    What is the state of the art in x86/x64 energy efficient processor
    technology ?

    Same question for gpu/graphics card:

    What is an energy efficient gpu that can run DX11 games or at least DX9 ?

    Mammie is also doubting between laptop and desktop... it will probably be a
    desktop... but I would also appreciate answers for laptops as well...

    Though the whole idea of dropping an expensive laptop on the ground scares
    me ;)

    Also mammie gets dizzy nowadays... so laptop might be too risky ! ;)

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Nov 12, 2010
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  2. This is a nice chart:

    Though I am a bit surprised that the athlon 64 2600+ runs at the same watt
    as athlon x2 3800+

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CPU_power_dissipation

    My mother currently has the athlon 64 2600+ with a hp hood over it, I don't
    know exactly what the hood does... but so far the hardware seems to still be
    functioning... then again PC isn't used as heavily as I use my athlon x2
    3800+
    which also has 65 watts...

    I do notice the cpu running hot at full load... and starts to increase
    motherboard temperature... then again added gpu activity could also make
    situations worse...

    Personally I am unhappy with the amd athlon x2 3800+... I think it runs to
    hot... so I will probably not buy another AMD processor... I might switch to
    an intel processor which runs cooler perhaps at 35 watts or so...

    Question is... will that actually help ?! I hope so... but I am not sure...

    Also a good but not too hot gpu might be necessary for IE 9 acceleration in
    feature so seems wise/good to have that too.

    The Core 2 Duo processors seem nice according to that chart...

    Also core I5 and such...

    Anybody have one and have experience with core 2 duo or core i5 ?

    Can they run games well ?

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Nov 12, 2010
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  3. Skybuck Flying, Nov 12, 2010
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  4. Only thing left to do is find a nice graphics card which doesn't run to
    hot...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_graphics_processing_units

    And ofcourse is nvidia supported with superior opengl drivers and direct x
    and cuda support ! ;) :)

    And which is pretty recent to benefit from latest newest tech...

    The lowest watt on the graph is:

    GeForce GT 420 (OEM)

    However perhaps it's not out yet... so I might have to wait for a review or
    choose another one...

    Also it says OEM so not sure if it's available on websites/shops/stores ;)

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Nov 12, 2010
    #4
  5. "Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
    news:ba881$4cdd2376$54190f09$1.nb.home.nl...
    > Only thing left to do is find a nice graphics card which doesn't run to
    > hot...
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_graphics_processing_units
    >
    > And ofcourse is nvidia supported with superior opengl drivers and direct x
    > and cuda support ! ;) :)
    >
    > And which is pretty recent to benefit from latest newest tech...
    >
    > The lowest watt on the graph is:
    >
    > GeForce GT 420 (OEM)


    ^ This one seems a little bit old, this one is probably better and has a
    review:

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt-430-review/16

    It's apperently "silent" so that's nice... doesn't consume too much heat...
    but it's still a bit much... hmmm... at least not as much as those other
    high end cards...

    It will probably run idle most of the time so could be nice ! ;)

    And it's not too expensive... at least I think... just 70 euro/bucks for a
    graphics cards... that's cheap in my book ! ;) :)

    It can't be used for resolution of 1920x1200... but maybe mammie is happy
    with 1024x768 or so... though a little bit more would be nice... ;) and this
    card can probably do it ;)

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
    Skybuck Flying, Nov 12, 2010
    #5
  6. Skybuck Flying

    Tim Shoppa Guest

    On Nov 12, 3:28 am, "Skybuck Flying" <>
    wrote:
    > What is the state of the art in x86/x64 energy efficient processor
    > technology ?


    For integer performance one measure is "Watts per Gigahertz", a number
    that you want to minimize.

    Widely available on PC-clone form factor motherboards include:

    Via Eden especially Eden ULV (2 Watts per Gigahertz)

    Intel Atom especially Atom 230, 330 (2.5 Watts per Gigahertz)

    In terms of floating point performance - Watts per Gigaflop - the Atom
    comes out ahead.

    Tim.
     
    Tim Shoppa, Nov 12, 2010
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  7. Skybuck Flying

    Carlie Coats Guest

    Skybuck Flying wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Mammie wants new computer...
    >
    > I am not sure what mammie wants... but I know what I want... I want a quiet
    > computer that can even play company of heroes without running hot or without
    > behaving like a jet plane.
    >
    > So now a serious question to the audience:
    >
    > What is the state of the art in x86/x64 energy efficient processor
    > technology ?
    >
    > Same question for gpu/graphics card:
    >
    > What is an energy efficient gpu that can run DX11 games or at least DX9 ?
    >
    > Mammie is also doubting between laptop and desktop... it will probably be a
    > desktop... but I would also appreciate answers for laptops as well...


    Case and power supply make a lot of difference. Antec makes some
    very nice quiet cases and power supplies. I use their Sonata III
    myself; if you want something that will also look nice as a media
    computer, look at their NSK 2480).

    If you go SSD for disk, that will be both quieter and faster than
    a rotating drive. And reasonable capacities (120 GB, say) are
    not all *that* expensive. If you do software development like
    I do, a good SSD is *really* nice :)

    Several people on AnandTech's forums recommend the AMD Radeon 5770
    family as "very quiet and can be found for under $140" with more
    than adequate performance for gaming. The PowerColor passively
    cooled 5750 is supposed to be the fastest passively cooled card
    available.

    And as for processor, minimizing the power required minimizes the
    heat, allowing for a slower/quieter processor-fan. Go with an
    Intel Westmere I5 processor here, I think, and a made-for-quiet
    fan like the Zalman CNPS10X.

    -- Carlie Coats
     
    Carlie Coats, Nov 12, 2010
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  8. Skybuck Flying

    Sjouke Burry Guest

    John Larkin wrote:
    > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:28:09 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> Mammie wants new computer...
    >>
    >> I am not sure what mammie wants... but I know what I want... I want a quiet
    >> computer that can even play company of heroes without running hot or without
    >> behaving like a jet plane.
    >>

    >
    > Just how many computers do you burn through per year?
    >
    > John
    >
    >
    >

    He has been buying pc's from the brand TROLLOMATIC.
    Those have been outsourced UNDERTHEBRIDGE, where
    you get much more TROLLOBITS for your money.
     
    Sjouke Burry, Nov 12, 2010
    #8
  9. Skybuck Flying

    Robert Myers Guest

    On Nov 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
    <> wrote:
    > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:28:09 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
    >
    > <> wrote:
    > >Hello,

    >
    > >Mammie wants new computer...

    >
    > >I am not sure what mammie wants... but I know what I want... I want a quiet
    > >computer that can even play company of heroes without running hot or without
    > >behaving like a jet plane.

    >
    > Just how many computers do you burn through per year?
    >


    I don't want to be mean to Skybuck, who I am sure is a very fine
    fellow, but it had occurred to me that we have here an apparent
    opportunity to improve the general quality of life. Rather than
    sending computers that still work but that have outlived their
    usefulness to a landfill, we should create a sort of recycling center,
    where people who have a much higher than average consumption rate can
    obtain computers at low or no cost. Such people can then continue
    with their fearless and tireless experimentation without fear of
    financial ruin.

    Robert.
     
    Robert Myers, Nov 12, 2010
    #9
  10. Skybuck Flying

    Robert Myers Guest

    On Nov 12, 1:15 pm, André, PE1PQX
    <Andre(geenviagra)@invalid.pe1pqx.eu> wrote:
    > Robert Myers heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
    >
    > > I don't want to be mean to Skybuck, who I am sure is a very fine
    > > fellow, but it had occurred to me that we have here an apparent
    > > opportunity to improve the general quality of life.  Rather than
    > > sending computers that still work but that have outlived their
    > > usefulness to a landfill, we should create a sort of recycling center,
    > > where people who have a much higher than average consumption rate can
    > > obtain computers at low or no cost.  Such people can then continue
    > > with their fearless and tireless experimentation without fear of
    > > financial ruin.
    > > Robert.

    >
    > Robert: this skybuck dude is a Dutch idiot, who wants nothing more than
    > any form of attention.


    Is there anything wrong with Skybuck getting attention if he needs or
    wants it? I just finished a minor flame war on slashdot about the
    inundation of tasteless, offensive, and unfunny jokes that has made
    slashdot very tiresome to read. By comparison, Skybuck is positively
    likable and, as far as I am concerned, even welcome.

    I don't know about the other groups he posts to, but comp.arch has
    always been self-policing, and I can't see that he does any harm to
    anyone.

    Robert.
     
    Robert Myers, Nov 12, 2010
    #10
  11. Skybuck Flying

    amdx Guest

    "John Larkin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:28:09 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>Hello,
    >>
    >>Mammie wants new computer...
    >>
    >>I am not sure what mammie wants... but I know what I want... I want a
    >>quiet
    >>computer that can even play company of heroes without running hot or
    >>without
    >>behaving like a jet plane.
    >>

    >
    > Just how many computers do you burn through per year?
    >
    > John
    >

    My vote..... give her yours.
    MikeK
     
    amdx, Nov 12, 2010
    #11
  12. Skybuck Flying

    Del Cecchi Guest

    "Robert Myers" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    On Nov 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
    <> wrote:
    > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:28:09 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
    >
    > <> wrote:
    > >Hello,

    >
    > >Mammie wants new computer...

    >
    > >I am not sure what mammie wants... but I know what I want... I want
    > >a quiet
    > >computer that can even play company of heroes without running hot
    > >or without
    > >behaving like a jet plane.

    >
    > Just how many computers do you burn through per year?
    >


    I don't want to be mean to Skybuck, who I am sure is a very fine
    fellow, but it had occurred to me that we have here an apparent
    opportunity to improve the general quality of life. Rather than
    sending computers that still work but that have outlived their
    usefulness to a landfill, we should create a sort of recycling center,
    where people who have a much higher than average consumption rate can
    obtain computers at low or no cost. Such people can then continue
    with their fearless and tireless experimentation without fear of
    financial ruin.

    Robert.
    =====================================

    Such a facility exists already. It is ebay, or Craigslist, or
    freecycle.org in decending order of likely selling price.
     
    Del Cecchi, Nov 13, 2010
    #12
  13. Perhaps mammie doesn't want new computer...

    Monitor cable near the monitor was loose ! ;) :) LOL.

    So noobish ;) :)

    Bye,
    Skybuck ! ;) :)
     
    Skybuck Flying, Nov 17, 2010
    #13
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