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x800xt on Win2k MMC (tv tuner) issue

Discussion in 'ATI' started by Eggs Zachtly, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Eggs Zachtly

    Eggs Zachtly Guest

    After years of satellite TV, I recently switched back to cable, and decided
    to try the TV Tuner on this card. It worked fine on both monitors connected
    to this card. Having a new hard drive sitting here, I figured it was a good
    time for a fresh install of Win2k. Now, I can't get the TV tuner to
    initialize. It returns the following:

    | Unable to start TV
    |
    | The TV player failed to initialize the video.
    |
    | Check the Windows Device Manager to ensure that the correct video driver has been installed and is working properly before attempting to restart TV.
    |
    | PC Check may help diagnose this problem.
    | Start PC Check utility after pressing OK

    If I run the PC Check utility, when it gets to the DX section (Graphics,
    more specifically: "Checks capture driver installation"), Windows returns
    another popup:

    | Application popup: mmccfg.exe - Application Error :
    |
    | The instruction at "0x0040fa12" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The memory could not be "read".
    | Click on OK to terminate the program

    After clicking OK, the config utility window closes, but atimmc.exe is left
    running (taskmanager to kill).


    Thinking that maybe I installed a different set of drivers than I had on
    the earlier install of Windows, I checked the old hdd (slaved) to see what
    was listed in the old C:\ATI\Support folder:

    | --<ATI>--
    | --<SUPPORT>--
    | --<3-03_rw_enu>--
    | --<6-2_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30152>--
    | --<9-08_mmc_enu>--
    | --<9-08_mmc_uci>--

    Those are the same versions that I'm currently trying to install. =/

    I tried re-installing using the following method:

    Using the Add/Remove applet in Control panel, I uninstalled (in order):

    ATI Remote Wonder
    ATI MMC
    ATI Display driver (primary and secondary)
    ATI Catalyst Control Center
    ATI Software Uninstall Utility

    I then reboot to Safe Mode and run Driver Cleaner Pro to remove any
    remaining ATI software (twice, just in case).

    Reboot to Normal, and install:

    6-2_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30152
    9-08_mmc_enu
    9-08_mmc_uci
    3-03_rw_enu


    Finally, to the questions. =)

    I've most recently been looking for other versions of the software to
    install, but have had no luck. The AMD/ATI site is absolutely useless now.
    They only offer the same versions I have. The older versions are nowhere to
    be found on that site. Any external links to their site are blocked, and
    that's where most pages point. I found a lot of the older Catalyst drivers
    on oldapps.com, but finding any older MMC versions is difficult. Is there
    an archive anywhere?

    Is there a site that lists which versions of the Catalyst and MMC are
    actually compatable?

    Is this a case of "pilot error" and my install/uninstall methods are
    flawed?

    This isn't *that* big of a deal. I've done without that feature since I got
    the card, until very recently. But, when something works, and then all of a
    sudden doesn't, I like to get it working again. =) Sorry if this was
    long-winded, but I wanted to give as much detail as I thought was necessary
    to begin resolving this. If any other info is required, I'll try and
    provide it.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated!
    --

    Eggs

    -If a cow laughs hard, does milk come out its nose?
     
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  2. You may not have the proper and required versions of "DirectX" and/or
    "dot net framework" installed. Install DirectX 9 and all versions of
    dot net (different dot net versions are not replacements or upgrades of
    each other, they are totally different environments; e.g. for many
    applications you may need dot net version 1,2 and 3 all installed).


    Eggs Zachtly wrote:
    > After years of satellite TV, I recently switched back to cable, and decided
    > to try the TV Tuner on this card. It worked fine on both monitors connected
    > to this card. Having a new hard drive sitting here, I figured it was a good
    > time for a fresh install of Win2k. Now, I can't get the TV tuner to
    > initialize. It returns the following:
    >
    > | Unable to start TV
    > |
    > | The TV player failed to initialize the video.
    > |
    > | Check the Windows Device Manager to ensure that the correct video driver has been installed and is working properly before attempting to restart TV.
    > |
    > | PC Check may help diagnose this problem.
    > | Start PC Check utility after pressing OK
    >
    > If I run the PC Check utility, when it gets to the DX section (Graphics,
    > more specifically: "Checks capture driver installation"), Windows returns
    > another popup:
    >
    > | Application popup: mmccfg.exe - Application Error :
    > |
    > | The instruction at "0x0040fa12" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The memory could not be "read".
    > | Click on OK to terminate the program
    >
    > After clicking OK, the config utility window closes, but atimmc.exe is left
    > running (taskmanager to kill).
    >
    >
    > Thinking that maybe I installed a different set of drivers than I had on
    > the earlier install of Windows, I checked the old hdd (slaved) to see what
    > was listed in the old C:\ATI\Support folder:
    >
    > | --<ATI>--
    > | --<SUPPORT>--
    > | --<3-03_rw_enu>--
    > | --<6-2_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30152>--
    > | --<9-08_mmc_enu>--
    > | --<9-08_mmc_uci>--
    >
    > Those are the same versions that I'm currently trying to install. =/
    >
    > I tried re-installing using the following method:
    >
    > Using the Add/Remove applet in Control panel, I uninstalled (in order):
    >
    > ATI Remote Wonder
    > ATI MMC
    > ATI Display driver (primary and secondary)
    > ATI Catalyst Control Center
    > ATI Software Uninstall Utility
    >
    > I then reboot to Safe Mode and run Driver Cleaner Pro to remove any
    > remaining ATI software (twice, just in case).
    >
    > Reboot to Normal, and install:
    >
    > 6-2_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30152
    > 9-08_mmc_enu
    > 9-08_mmc_uci
    > 3-03_rw_enu
    >
    >
    > Finally, to the questions. =)
    >
    > I've most recently been looking for other versions of the software to
    > install, but have had no luck. The AMD/ATI site is absolutely useless now.
    > They only offer the same versions I have. The older versions are nowhere to
    > be found on that site. Any external links to their site are blocked, and
    > that's where most pages point. I found a lot of the older Catalyst drivers
    > on oldapps.com, but finding any older MMC versions is difficult. Is there
    > an archive anywhere?
    >
    > Is there a site that lists which versions of the Catalyst and MMC are
    > actually compatable?
    >
    > Is this a case of "pilot error" and my install/uninstall methods are
    > flawed?
    >
    > This isn't *that* big of a deal. I've done without that feature since I got
    > the card, until very recently. But, when something works, and then all of a
    > sudden doesn't, I like to get it working again. =) Sorry if this was
    > long-winded, but I wanted to give as much detail as I thought was necessary
    > to begin resolving this. If any other info is required, I'll try and
    > provide it.
    >
    > Any help will be greatly appreciated!
     
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  3. Eggs Zachtly

    Eggs Zachtly Guest

    Barry Watzman said:

    > You may not have the proper and required versions of "DirectX" and/or
    > "dot net framework" installed. Install DirectX 9 and all versions of
    > dot net (different dot net versions are not replacements or upgrades of
    > each other, they are totally different environments; e.g. for many
    > applications you may need dot net version 1,2 and 3 all installed).
    >


    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

    Microsoft .NET Framework v1.0
    Directory c:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.0.3705\

    Microsoft .NET Framework v1.1
    Directory c:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\

    Microsoft .NET Framework v2.0
    Directory c:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\

    ..NET Framework 3.0 doesn't run on Win2k.

    --

    Eggs

    -A tree never hits an automobile except in self-defence.
     
  4. Eggs Zachtly

    Eggs Zachtly Guest

    William R. Walsh said:

    > Hi!
    >
    >>| Unable to start TV
    >>| The TV player failed to initialize the video.

    >
    > This usually indicates a problem with the video overlay functionality.
    > Sometimes it can indicate that the video card has run out of video memory.
    > Have you tried running at a lower resolution and adjusting the color depth
    > (16 or 32 bit)?


    The card has 256MB and the machine has 2048MB. I don't think it's a RAM issue. I
    don't have any issues with any apps or games.

    >
    > I'm surprised to hear that you are using Windows 2000 for this. Is the
    > operating system up to date with all service packs, hotfixes, rollups, etc?
    > (Don't get me wrong, I love Windows 2000. It's just odd to find others who
    > are still running it as well.)


    Fresh install with all available critical updates (and most other updates, save
    for ATI drivers). I had no reason to go to XP, over Win2kSP4. I had absolutely
    no desire to go to Vista. I'd like to run Win7, but I'm not sure I have a
    machine capable, and building a new one right now isn't possible. 2k is rock
    solid stable on this machine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh? =)

    >
    > What CPU is in this system? (I ask because Windows 2000 at least has a flaw
    > in the stream.sys driver. This flaw shows up on Pentium 4 HT microprocessors
    > (with hyperthreading enabled) and manifests itself by causing any
    > application that tries to use the TV tuner to lock up at some point, usually
    > before you get any video. Quitting the application will not work, a "zombie"
    > will be left behind in Task Manager.)


    AMD Athlon XP 2800+

    >
    >

    [snipped.. hyperthreding's not possible]

    Thanks for the attempt, William. =)

    --

    Eggs

    -A tree never hits an automobile except in self-defence.
     
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