XP SP2 doesn't work on AX4SG Max motherboard

Discussion in 'AOpen' started by Gulliver, Aug 17, 2004.

  1. Gulliver

    Gulliver Guest

    Just did another test: Installed XP (no SP) on my Shuttle (FV25) and then
    went direct to XP SP2 - all works perfectly.

    Therefore, the problem seems to be with AOpen's AX4SG Max motherboard,
    and/or BIOS and XP SP2.


    "Gulliver" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > http://club.aopen.com.tw/forum/viewmessage.asp?forumID=17&MessageID=64193
    >
    > Someone else is having the same problem with an EA65, see:
    > http://club.aopen.com.tw/forum/viewmessage.asp?forumID=49&MessageID=64192
    >
    > Who's to blame? Microsoft or AOpen?
    >
    >
    > << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 7:54:49 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    > I think I've exhausted all the testing I can do, and with the prospect

    that
    > AOpen won't be able to find the problem either, I'll have to return this
    > board for a refund (to DABS.COM). I purchased it in February and it cost
    > quite a bit, so I'll try install XP SP2 on a Shuttle I have around, to
    > verify my media are all perfect, then I'll have to get an Abit, or
    > Supermicro, or something instead. I see there is also a Max II version,

    but
    > obviously I wouldn't want to be in the same boat all over again.
    >
    > If Tech Support can just get back to me and tell me if it's all my fault,

    or
    > Microsoft's, or whether it's a problem with this motherboard. I know XP

    SP2
    > hasn't been out even a week yet - which was why I was starting to test it

    !!
    >
    >
    > << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 3:41:16 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    > Also disconnected CD-ROM drives (NEC 107D and SONY CRX300), disable LAN
    > during one re-build, and did the "disable mup" trick - nothing worked.

    When
    > I disabled mup.sys the next instance to load was NDIS - disabled that and
    > got a crash - NDIS is a required component (as far as I know). But, does
    > this point to a problem with the Broadcom gigabit firmware? I see there is

    a
    > new firmware/diag download for this.
    >
    >
    > << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 2:56:08 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    > I forgot to mention, I also swapped the DIMMS, tried with just one DIMM,

    ran
    > Microsoft's memory testing software (link posted elsewhere on this forum).
    > As I said, I read posts across the net, and from this forum, before I
    > considered posting. I like to solve problems on my own, by searching
    > extensively first, but some problems are so embedded in the BIOS, or
    > software, that all you can do, once you've exhausted all your own testing,
    > is to refer it to Technical Support. You can waste days testing something
    > only to find out it's a BIOS/mb issue, but equally it may well be a major
    > problem with XP SP2!
    >
    >
    > << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 2:16:40 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    > As I already said, I installed XP from scratch (original media), then
    > applied SP1a, then applied SP2 - both with and without 3rd-party drivers.

    I
    > also did a build from XP, then went directly to SP2 - same problem every
    > time. XP SP1a and all patches work just fine, and previously worked for

    six
    > months. I've fiddled with every setting in the BIOS that could be

    connected.
    > I also read this article, and many more (search the Internet for hours
    > reading material) before posting. I hadn't loaded any applications at

    all -
    > these were fresh installs every time.
    >
    >
    > << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 9:00:51 AM by Pedro Lezama >>
    > Isn't the AX4SG Max. Is the WinXP´s SP2.
    >
    > Here are the link.
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2
    >
    >
    > << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 4:49:05 AM by Jonathan Swift >>
    > Firstly, I love Aopen kit - it's well made, has good documentation, and

    good
    > support.
    >
    > Now the problem. I have an AX4SG Max motherboard with 1GB (2x512) Corsair
    > memory and a P4 2.8 1MB (Extreme Edition) cpu. I had a 250MB SATA Maxtor
    > drive, and I'm using the onboard LAN and VGA - no other components. I
    > installed WinXP SP2 and the machine wouldn't boot - hung at mup.sys (or
    > whatever's next). I then replace the drive with a 40GB Seagate and
    > re-installed XP and SP1 from scratch - no 3rd-party drivers added, then
    > upgraded to SP2 - again, hung when booting. Re-installed again, SP1, added
    > 3rd-party drivers (latest), installed SP2, hung again. So I've gone back

    to
    > using SP1a and all the patches - works like a dream. I have the latest
    > (1.09) bios. My unit number is: 918AT1040133900105JE39 but have no idea if
    > this is a problem with this motherboard not working with SP2. Any helpful
    > suggestions gratefully appreciated. I'm currently using the 40GB drive as
    > the boot device, and all the data is, thankfully, on the 250GB Maxtor.

    NOTE.
    > I thought I'd lost 10 years and 200GB of data as when I installed XP it
    > didn't see any data on the drive - until I installed SP1 which supports
    > really big drives ! I've got 20 years experience in all this sort of

    thing,
    > I work as a Server Development Specialist - specialising in hardware

    testing
    > and automated OS and OS-related software installation, so I tried a lot of
    > the obvious - re-setting BIOS defaults, turning off hyperthreading, etc.
    >
    >
    Gulliver, Aug 17, 2004
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  2. Gulliver

    Cari Guest

    The problem appears to be the Prescott and Extreme Edition P4s.

    http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?t=7447
    --
    Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
    www.coribright.com

    "Gulliver" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Just did another test: Installed XP (no SP) on my Shuttle (FV25) and then
    > went direct to XP SP2 - all works perfectly.
    >
    > Therefore, the problem seems to be with AOpen's AX4SG Max motherboard,
    > and/or BIOS and XP SP2.
    >
    >
    > "Gulliver" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> http://club.aopen.com.tw/forum/viewmessage.asp?forumID=17&MessageID=64193
    >>
    >> Someone else is having the same problem with an EA65, see:
    >> http://club.aopen.com.tw/forum/viewmessage.asp?forumID=49&MessageID=64192
    >>
    >> Who's to blame? Microsoft or AOpen?
    >>
    >>
    >> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 7:54:49 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    >> I think I've exhausted all the testing I can do, and with the prospect

    > that
    >> AOpen won't be able to find the problem either, I'll have to return this
    >> board for a refund (to DABS.COM). I purchased it in February and it cost
    >> quite a bit, so I'll try install XP SP2 on a Shuttle I have around, to
    >> verify my media are all perfect, then I'll have to get an Abit, or
    >> Supermicro, or something instead. I see there is also a Max II version,

    > but
    >> obviously I wouldn't want to be in the same boat all over again.
    >>
    >> If Tech Support can just get back to me and tell me if it's all my fault,

    > or
    >> Microsoft's, or whether it's a problem with this motherboard. I know XP

    > SP2
    >> hasn't been out even a week yet - which was why I was starting to test it

    > !!
    >>
    >>
    >> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 3:41:16 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    >> Also disconnected CD-ROM drives (NEC 107D and SONY CRX300), disable LAN
    >> during one re-build, and did the "disable mup" trick - nothing worked.

    > When
    >> I disabled mup.sys the next instance to load was NDIS - disabled that and
    >> got a crash - NDIS is a required component (as far as I know). But, does
    >> this point to a problem with the Broadcom gigabit firmware? I see there
    >> is

    > a
    >> new firmware/diag download for this.
    >>
    >>
    >> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 2:56:08 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    >> I forgot to mention, I also swapped the DIMMS, tried with just one DIMM,

    > ran
    >> Microsoft's memory testing software (link posted elsewhere on this
    >> forum).
    >> As I said, I read posts across the net, and from this forum, before I
    >> considered posting. I like to solve problems on my own, by searching
    >> extensively first, but some problems are so embedded in the BIOS, or
    >> software, that all you can do, once you've exhausted all your own
    >> testing,
    >> is to refer it to Technical Support. You can waste days testing something
    >> only to find out it's a BIOS/mb issue, but equally it may well be a major
    >> problem with XP SP2!
    >>
    >>
    >> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 2:16:40 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
    >> As I already said, I installed XP from scratch (original media), then
    >> applied SP1a, then applied SP2 - both with and without 3rd-party drivers.

    > I
    >> also did a build from XP, then went directly to SP2 - same problem every
    >> time. XP SP1a and all patches work just fine, and previously worked for

    > six
    >> months. I've fiddled with every setting in the BIOS that could be

    > connected.
    >> I also read this article, and many more (search the Internet for hours
    >> reading material) before posting. I hadn't loaded any applications at

    > all -
    >> these were fresh installs every time.
    >>
    >>
    >> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 9:00:51 AM by Pedro Lezama >>
    >> Isn't the AX4SG Max. Is the WinXP´s SP2.
    >>
    >> Here are the link.
    >>
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2
    >>
    >>
    >> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 4:49:05 AM by Jonathan Swift >>
    >> Firstly, I love Aopen kit - it's well made, has good documentation, and

    > good
    >> support.
    >>
    >> Now the problem. I have an AX4SG Max motherboard with 1GB (2x512) Corsair
    >> memory and a P4 2.8 1MB (Extreme Edition) cpu. I had a 250MB SATA Maxtor
    >> drive, and I'm using the onboard LAN and VGA - no other components. I
    >> installed WinXP SP2 and the machine wouldn't boot - hung at mup.sys (or
    >> whatever's next). I then replace the drive with a 40GB Seagate and
    >> re-installed XP and SP1 from scratch - no 3rd-party drivers added, then
    >> upgraded to SP2 - again, hung when booting. Re-installed again, SP1,
    >> added
    >> 3rd-party drivers (latest), installed SP2, hung again. So I've gone back

    > to
    >> using SP1a and all the patches - works like a dream. I have the latest
    >> (1.09) bios. My unit number is: 918AT1040133900105JE39 but have no idea
    >> if
    >> this is a problem with this motherboard not working with SP2. Any helpful
    >> suggestions gratefully appreciated. I'm currently using the 40GB drive as
    >> the boot device, and all the data is, thankfully, on the 250GB Maxtor.

    > NOTE.
    >> I thought I'd lost 10 years and 200GB of data as when I installed XP it
    >> didn't see any data on the drive - until I installed SP1 which supports
    >> really big drives ! I've got 20 years experience in all this sort of

    > thing,
    >> I work as a Server Development Specialist - specialising in hardware

    > testing
    >> and automated OS and OS-related software installation, so I tried a lot
    >> of
    >> the obvious - re-setting BIOS defaults, turning off hyperthreading, etc.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    >
    Cari, Aug 24, 2004
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