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Lisa B.
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      09-29-2008, 03:19 PM


I'm just about to upgrade my Latitude D620's hard drive. Purchased
new hard drive (320GB SATAII) and USB 2.5" hard drive enclosure.

Can anyone detail (or point me) to a step by step guide to cloning the
hard drive so I don't have to spend days reloading everything? Very
basically, I understand that you place the new hard drive in the
enclosure, clone the old to the new, and replace old hard drive in
laptop with new hard drive with cloned copy of original.

I was going to use UBCD but understand it is difficult to make using a
Dell XP CD and that's all I have.

As always, thanks in advance for all your help.

Lisa
 
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      09-29-2008, 03:20 PM
Sorry, should have added, that I would prefer to use free software,
rather than purchase some -- but will if I have to.

LIsa

On Sep 29, 10:19*am, "Lisa B." <lisa.ber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just about to upgrade my Latitude D620's hard drive. *Purchased
> new hard drive (320GB SATAII) and USB 2.5" hard drive enclosure.
>
> Can anyone detail (or point me) to a step by step guide to cloning the
> hard drive so I don't have to spend days reloading everything? *Very
> basically, I understand that you place the new hard drive in the
> enclosure, clone the old to the new, and replace old hard drive in
> laptop with new hard drive with cloned copy of original.
>
> I was going to use UBCD but understand it is difficult to make using a
> Dell XP CD and that's all I have.
>
> As always, thanks in advance for all your help.
>
> Lisa


 
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Ben Myers
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      09-29-2008, 03:43 PM
FWIW, The Dell Windows XP system "restoration" CD differs in content from a
retail or an OEM Windows XP install CD by the contents of one file, AFAIK. I
have difficulty believing that it would be problematic with UBCD, altho I have
never tried it myself... Ben Myers

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:20:54 -0700 (PDT), "Lisa B." <>
wrote:

>Sorry, should have added, that I would prefer to use free software,
>rather than purchase some -- but will if I have to.
>
>LIsa
>
>On Sep 29, 10:19*am, "Lisa B." <lisa.ber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm just about to upgrade my Latitude D620's hard drive. *Purchased
>> new hard drive (320GB SATAII) and USB 2.5" hard drive enclosure.
>>
>> Can anyone detail (or point me) to a step by step guide to cloning the
>> hard drive so I don't have to spend days reloading everything? *Very
>> basically, I understand that you place the new hard drive in the
>> enclosure, clone the old to the new, and replace old hard drive in
>> laptop with new hard drive with cloned copy of original.
>>
>> I was going to use UBCD but understand it is difficult to make using a
>> Dell XP CD and that's all I have.
>>
>> As always, thanks in advance for all your help.
>>
>> Lisa

 
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Lisa B.
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      09-29-2008, 03:50 PM
New drive is Western DIgital Scorpio Black.

I'll check their website, but thought the software could only be used
if you were adding second drive (slave) to system as on a desktop.
Could be wrong, obviously.

On Sep 29, 10:35*am, "Christopher Muto" <m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> what brand drive do you have. *the major brands all offer free disk
> utilities that can be downloaded from the manufactures site and include
> guided set up of your new drive, including cloning the current primary boot
> drive and preparing the new drive to replace the primary boot drive.
>
> "Lisa B." <lisa.ber...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ca01db60-56b3-4425-9533-...
>
>
>
> > I'm just about to upgrade my Latitude D620's hard drive. *Purchased
> > new hard drive (320GB SATAII) and USB 2.5" hard drive enclosure.

>
> > Can anyone detail (or point me) to a step by step guide to cloning the
> > hard drive so I don't have to spend days reloading everything? *Very
> > basically, I understand that you place the new hard drive in the
> > enclosure, clone the old to the new, and replace old hard drive in
> > laptop with new hard drive with cloned copy of original.

>
> > I was going to use UBCD but understand it is difficult to make using a
> > Dell XP CD and that's all I have.

>
> > As always, thanks in advance for all your help.

>
> > Lisa- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


 
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Lisa B.
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      09-29-2008, 03:53 PM
From their FAQ:

"What steps are necessary when building with a Dell CD?
There several problems that you can run into when using a Dell CD or
system:
â–«You receive a "missing xxxxx.xxx file when booting UBCD4Win. Your
Dell CD may contain other drivers that are needed for the system you
are trying to boot the project with. Please post a question in the
forum, we will try to help with this error.
â–«You receive building errors when trying to build UBCD4Win with the
Builder. This is a registry problem instructions are below:
1. Download the subinacl tool from Microsoft. Install this tool to the
default "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools" folder.
2. Download this dellregfix.zip file, unzip it.
3. Copy your Dell XP CD to a folder such as "C:\dellxpcd".
4. In your "C:\dellxpcd" folder find where the "setupreg.hiv" file is.
You need to copy the subinacl.exe file from the "C:\Program Files
\Windows Resource Kits\Tools" folder and the dellregfix.cmd files to
this folder.
5. Now run the dellregfix.cmd file. Make sure you ONLY run this CMD
script from within your "C:\dellxpcd" folder!
This fix doesn't always work, I would give it a success rate of about
90%. If this does not work for you, please post in our support forum.
We may be able to still help you"

Granted, I didn't try it, but thought I'd look around for another
method.

Could be I'm concerned, unecessarily.

lisa


On Sep 29, 10:43Â*am, Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_...@charter.net>
wrote:
> FWIW, The Dell Windows XP system "restoration" CD differs in content froma
> retail or an OEM Windows XP install CD by the contents of one file, AFAIK.. Â*I
> have difficulty believing that it would be problematic with UBCD, altho Ihave
> never tried it myself... Ben Myers
>
>

 
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Brian K
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      09-30-2008, 04:18 AM
Lisa,

The better way is a "reverse clone" with the new HD in it's final resting
position and the old HD in the USB enclosure. It's a more reliable way of
cloning than the standard way with the old HD in the computer. The standard
way doesn't always work. In fact it rarely works with IBM and HP laptops due
to CHS geometry issues.

I suggest swapping HDs and using CopyWipe for DOS. It's free and it's easy
to use.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe.php

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe-ss.htm


 
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Lisa B.
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      09-30-2008, 04:59 AM
Thanks, Brian,

To make sure I understand this:

1. Create bootable CD of CopyWipe for Dos and test.
2. Install new HD in laptop; install old HD in USB enclosure.
3. Boot from CD, copy old HD (in enclosure) to new HD in laptop.
4. Remove CD, disconnect USB enclosure and boot normally.
5. Voila!

OK? TIA.

On Sep 29, 11:18*pm, "Brian K" <remove_t...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lisa,
>
> The better way is a "reverse clone" with the new HD in it's final resting
> position and the old HD in the USB enclosure. It's a more reliable way of
> cloning than the standard way with the old HD in the computer. The standard
> way doesn't always work. In fact it rarely works with IBM and HP laptops due
> to CHS geometry issues.
>
> I suggest swapping HDs and using CopyWipe for DOS. It's free and it's easy
> to use.
>
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe.php
>
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe-ss.htm


 
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Brian K
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      09-30-2008, 05:50 AM

"Lisa B." <> wrote in message
news:9f7ea7b7-cf3a-4f6f-90db-...
Thanks, Brian,

To make sure I understand this:

1. Create bootable CD of CopyWipe for Dos and test.
2. Install new HD in laptop; install old HD in USB enclosure.
3. Boot from CD, copy old HD (in enclosure) to new HD in laptop.
4. Remove CD, disconnect USB enclosure and boot normally.
5. Voila!

OK? TIA.






Perfect.

When using the CD, if you can't see your external HD from the USB2 choice,
try the BIOS (Direct) choice.

To make the CD, double click makedisk.exe as described in the pdf. When
using the app, click F6 at the appropriate time to make sure you are
selecting the correct HDs. You will need to use the Scale Size option to
expand each partition. Good luck and let us know the outcome.


 
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Ben Myers
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      09-30-2008, 06:21 AM
Brian,

It is not clear from the CopyWipe manual that the DOS version reads and writes
NFTS partitions and copies long file names correctly. Some of the early drive
copying utilities did not do so. Comment please... Ben Myers

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:50:04 GMT, "Brian K" <> wrote:

>
>"Lisa B." <> wrote in message
>news:9f7ea7b7-cf3a-4f6f-90db-...
>Thanks, Brian,
>
>To make sure I understand this:
>
>1. Create bootable CD of CopyWipe for Dos and test.
>2. Install new HD in laptop; install old HD in USB enclosure.
>3. Boot from CD, copy old HD (in enclosure) to new HD in laptop.
>4. Remove CD, disconnect USB enclosure and boot normally.
>5. Voila!
>
>OK? TIA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Perfect.
>
>When using the CD, if you can't see your external HD from the USB2 choice,
>try the BIOS (Direct) choice.
>
>To make the CD, double click makedisk.exe as described in the pdf. When
>using the app, click F6 at the appropriate time to make sure you are
>selecting the correct HDs. You will need to use the Scale Size option to
>expand each partition. Good luck and let us know the outcome.
>

 
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Ben Myers
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      09-30-2008, 06:25 AM
One further observation. The CopyWipe document states that the target drive
cannot be one that is in use. I have difficuty reconciling this with the
approach you have outlined, namely copying from the old drive (attached as a USB
drive for a laptop) to the new drive from which the system was booted. What am
I missing here? Or maybe I misread something? It is late here, after all.
Please explain.... Ben Myers

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:50:04 GMT, "Brian K" <> wrote:

>
>"Lisa B." <> wrote in message
>news:9f7ea7b7-cf3a-4f6f-90db-...
>Thanks, Brian,
>
>To make sure I understand this:
>
>1. Create bootable CD of CopyWipe for Dos and test.
>2. Install new HD in laptop; install old HD in USB enclosure.
>3. Boot from CD, copy old HD (in enclosure) to new HD in laptop.
>4. Remove CD, disconnect USB enclosure and boot normally.
>5. Voila!
>
>OK? TIA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Perfect.
>
>When using the CD, if you can't see your external HD from the USB2 choice,
>try the BIOS (Direct) choice.
>
>To make the CD, double click makedisk.exe as described in the pdf. When
>using the app, click F6 at the appropriate time to make sure you are
>selecting the correct HDs. You will need to use the Scale Size option to
>expand each partition. Good luck and let us know the outcome.
>

 
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