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donnamray
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      03-14-2007, 11:20 PM


I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that I desperately want to upgrade, I can
install the mother board and processor myself. Just would like a good
suggestion of one to buy that is great for gaming and fast for the
internet, I would rather not buy another dell motherboard if I don't
half to. My computer is slow and would like it to be faster and my
husband likes to play games alot, so I need something for both gaming
and internet, I have Hughes net internet and my computer keeps hanging
up each time I get on it, I want to reformat the hard drive and get a
new motherboard and processor but would like some advice on the one I
need to buy???

 
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Ben Myers
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      03-14-2007, 11:50 PM
The best, and almost the only, motherboard upgrade for your Dimension 2400 is
one from a Dimension 4600, and only if you get the I/O back plate with it.

Dell computers use several custom connectors which make upgrade with another
motherboard difficult. These include 3-pin external fan connector and audio
cable to front audio connector.

You could also cram a Dimension 4700 board into a 2400 chassis, after changing
out the power supply for one with a BTX connector. Any other motherboard,
non-Dell, requires even more work to make all the electronic connections work.

In short, either upgrade the memory or get another computer.

If you were unfortunate enough to buy a Dimension 2400 when Dell was peddling
them with only 128MB of memory, upgrade the memory quick! Even with 256MB of
memory, a Dimension 2400 running Windows XP is a slug! 512MB is the practical
minimum to run XP. With the right system memory, it should be perfectly
adequate for fast internet access, unless your "Hughes" internet is via
satellite. Then it's the satellite delays that slow down internet access.

No matter what you do with the 2400, it will never be much of a computer for
gaming. Acceptable for basic internet use and office work... Ben Myers

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:20:36 -0000, lid (donnamray) wrote:

>I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that I desperately want to upgrade, I can
>install the mother board and processor myself. Just would like a good
>suggestion of one to buy that is great for gaming and fast for the
>internet, I would rather not buy another dell motherboard if I don't
>half to. My computer is slow and would like it to be faster and my
>husband likes to play games alot, so I need something for both gaming
>and internet, I have Hughes net internet and my computer keeps hanging
>up each time I get on it, I want to reformat the hard drive and get a
>new motherboard and processor but would like some advice on the one I
>need to buy???

 
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Colin Wilson
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      03-15-2007, 12:22 AM
> I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that I desperately want to upgrade

That's understandable, they were rock-bottom specification machines when
they were new :-} (my wife has one) - adding memory helps, but they're
still low-end machines that are only really suited to general web
browsing / office work. Going from 256Mb to 512Mb makes a hell of a
difference in general usability !

> My computer is slow and would like it to be faster and my husband
> likes to play games alot, so I need something for both gaming and
> internet, I have Hughes net internet and my computer keeps hanging
> up each time I get on it, I want to reformat the hard drive and get a
> new motherboard and processor but would like some advice on the one I
> need to buy???


How much money do you want to throw at the problem ? - my initial
reaction would be to say forget upgrading components and buy a whole new
machine, and keep the old one as a backup / second PC... the hassle you
may have getting compatible components working properly outweigh the
cost of letting someone else worry about getting it right.

Add to that a generic motherboard probably wouldn't let you install the
copy of XP you got with the Dell, and you'd end up paying out more again
for a working OS.

I'm not sure about the 2400, but some Dell hardware is a little
"tweaked" compared to normal off-the-shelf kit, so things like the PSU
might be wired differently - plugging a "tweaked" PSU into a standard
motherboard is likely to see it go "poof" :-}

If you're in the US, it might be worth looking at the Dell Outlet - they
do cheaper "refurb" machines - some of which are brand new customer
returns (the UK version of the Dell Outlet is complete crap, and often
outprices the new machines !).

Beware Vista - gaming performance is reputed to be complete sh!te, and
the operating system is comparatively slow compared to an XP machine.
You can still buy machines with XP from the small business side of the
site, or the Dell Outlet.

For gaming, you really need to think about a machine with a seperate
graphics card - is there any game in particular he likes at present (for
instance I like Half Life, and it doesn't need a particularly powerful
graphics card), or does he want to try all the latest stuff ?

New games will cost you a lot more to get reasonable performance -
possibly $200 to $300 more just for the graphics card alone, so it can
be a major factor in the overall cost.

For now, Core 2 Duo chips are supposed to be about as good as you can
get, but I wouldn't discount getting an AMD based machine just because
of brand snobbery.

For memory, i'd recommend a minimum of 1Gb as a starting point for XP,
but Vista needs more to run comfortably according to some reports.

As an aside, you say the 2400 hangs while browsing, can you give us a
little more information ? - how much memory is in it, have you got a
virus checker (*and if so, which ?), firewall, and have you scanned for
spyware ?

* Norton and McAfee have been known to seriously drag down system
performance - particularly if you're low on memory. You can get free
alternatives that give as good if not better protection, and don't hog
resources.

I've got some general info on spyware and links to free anti-virus
programs on my site at http://www.coreutilities.co.uk (you can currently
get the Kaspersky virus checker for free, and it's among the best
available - i've got a link to it from the second link down on my front
page)
 
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Tom Scales
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      03-15-2007, 12:25 AM

"donnamray" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that I desperately want to upgrade, I can
> install the mother board and processor myself. Just would like a good
> suggestion of one to buy that is great for gaming and fast for the
> internet, I would rather not buy another dell motherboard if I don't
> half to. My computer is slow and would like it to be faster and my
> husband likes to play games alot, so I need something for both gaming
> and internet, I have Hughes net internet and my computer keeps hanging
> up each time I get on it, I want to reformat the hard drive and get a
> new motherboard and processor but would like some advice on the one I
> need to buy???
>


Do not, under any circumstances, spend money upgrading this machine. It was
cheap and a great machine for the price, but you would be throwing away good
money. If money is a contraint, sell it for whatever you can get and go to
the Dell outlet and buy a new machine, such as an E520.

Upgrading is NOT cost-effective.


 
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Jim Macklin
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      03-15-2007, 12:30 AM
The 2400 and other "basic" DELL computers are not good
candidates for upgrades. The power supplies are small,
there is little room in the case and the cost of new, faster
parts is more than the cost of buying a whole new computer
that meets your desired performance level.

Since "gaming" is your desire [any Internet surfing will be
less demanding] look for a high performance graphics card
with lots of built-in GRAM and get 2 GB of system RAM. A
160 GB or big 7200 or 10,000 RPM SATA drive, a DVD-RW DL
drive and a Intel Dual Core CPU all running as fast as your
pocketbook will stand.
Use the 2400 for the kids homework, it isn't worth the new
mobo, RAM, drives and graphics.


Look for computer models that speak about gaming, check
www.pcworld.com and www.pcmag.com for reviews and expect to
pay around $700-1,200 at a minimum. Can spend $5,000 if you
want real flashy with custom paint.


"donnamray" <> wrote in message
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|I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that I desperately want to
upgrade, I can
| install the mother board and processor myself. Just would
like a good
| suggestion of one to buy that is great for gaming and fast
for the
| internet, I would rather not buy another dell motherboard
if I don't
| half to. My computer is slow and would like it to be
faster and my
| husband likes to play games alot, so I need something for
both gaming
| and internet, I have Hughes net internet and my computer
keeps hanging
| up each time I get on it, I want to reformat the hard
drive and get a
| new motherboard and processor but would like some advice
on the one I
| need to buy???
|


 
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Barry Watzman
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      03-15-2007, 01:57 AM
Let's see, you are going to replace the motherboard, memory and
processor (and perhaps more), but you insist that doing so be an upgrade
to "your Dell Dimension 2400". Given that the drives from the 2400
could be used on any other system, just what, exactly, is left of the
2400 that is specific to the 2400? Are you really all that attached to
a few pounds of inexpensive sheet metal?


donnamray wrote:
> I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that I desperately want to upgrade, I can
> install the mother board and processor myself. Just would like a good
> suggestion of one to buy that is great for gaming and fast for the
> internet, I would rather not buy another dell motherboard if I don't
> half to. My computer is slow and would like it to be faster and my
> husband likes to play games alot, so I need something for both gaming
> and internet, I have Hughes net internet and my computer keeps hanging
> up each time I get on it, I want to reformat the hard drive and get a
> new motherboard and processor but would like some advice on the one I
> need to buy???
>

 
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