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worldwideweb
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      12-20-2003, 08:42 PM


If I adjust these in bios with dimm & cpu at 1:1, 250, or more, my gfx will
be affected, game play will result with image loss or corruption. I've
latest bio 17 for this IS-7E & latest Direct-X 9, gfx drivers etc, so can
abit pls look into & reply.


 
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      12-20-2003, 09:51 PM
I'm not Abit and you won't likely get a response from Abit here (you
might...) but think about what you are doing when you select 1:1...

with that ratio and an FSB of 250, your ram is now clocked at 250 as well
and given that it is DDR, that means that the effective rate for the ram is
now 500 Mhz. that is right up there and I think (I admit that I don't know
for a fact...) that there isn't any ram out there currently that will do
that kind of speed. even if you were to relax the timings on the Advanced
Chipset page, I still doubt that you would be able to clock the ram at that
speed.

at 5:4, the DDR is running at 80% of FSB so you would then have 200 for the
ram speed and when doubled, 400 Mhz which is well within current ram
capabilities, at the upper end of the available ram out there...

I'm surprised that you only have some video corruption as many systems would
not even boot to an OS at 250 FSB and 1:1...

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"worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
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> If I adjust these in bios with dimm & cpu at 1:1, 250, or more, my gfx

will
> be affected, game play will result with image loss or corruption. I've
> latest bio 17 for this IS-7E & latest Direct-X 9, gfx drivers etc, so can
> abit pls look into & reply.
>
>



 
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      12-21-2003, 04:02 AM
I've these DDR500 dimms which is capable for speed at its designated range,
but since my CPU when using 5:4, 260, can run in both seti & Prime95 w/o
error, I am wondering why can it simly allows problem free when it's
theorically feasible at 250FSB, 1:1???

My game will be corrupted, but windows still woks perfectly, w/o crash and
running fine with Seti@Home, so, why is it only that when in sync with CPU,
the gfx will be affected during 3D gaming?

BTW, my CPU is P-IV2.4C and motherboard used in this case is Abit IS-7E,
Cosair XMS4000Pro, FX5950.



"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
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> I'm not Abit and you won't likely get a response from Abit here (you
> might...) but think about what you are doing when you select 1:1...
>
> with that ratio and an FSB of 250, your ram is now clocked at 250 as well
> and given that it is DDR, that means that the effective rate for the ram

is
> now 500 Mhz. that is right up there and I think (I admit that I don't

know
> for a fact...) that there isn't any ram out there currently that will do
> that kind of speed. even if you were to relax the timings on the Advanced
> Chipset page, I still doubt that you would be able to clock the ram at

that
> speed.
>
> at 5:4, the DDR is running at 80% of FSB so you would then have 200 for

the
> ram speed and when doubled, 400 Mhz which is well within current ram
> capabilities, at the upper end of the available ram out there...
>
> I'm surprised that you only have some video corruption as many systems

would
> not even boot to an OS at 250 FSB and 1:1...
>
> --
>
> Thomas Geery
> Network+ certified
>
> ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> over 120,000 FTP users served!
> ^^^^^^^
>
>
>
>
> "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> news:bs2b8a$qj3$...
> > If I adjust these in bios with dimm & cpu at 1:1, 250, or more, my gfx

> will
> > be affected, game play will result with image loss or corruption. I've
> > latest bio 17 for this IS-7E & latest Direct-X 9, gfx drivers etc, so

can
> > abit pls look into & reply.
> >
> >

>
>



 
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      12-21-2003, 01:09 PM
wow! Impressive ram! are you locking the AGP/PCI busses?

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"worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
news:bs34m0$1du$...
> I've these DDR500 dimms which is capable for speed at its designated

range,
> but since my CPU when using 5:4, 260, can run in both seti & Prime95 w/o
> error, I am wondering why can it simly allows problem free when it's
> theorically feasible at 250FSB, 1:1???
>
> My game will be corrupted, but windows still woks perfectly, w/o crash and
> running fine with Seti@Home, so, why is it only that when in sync with

CPU,
> the gfx will be affected during 3D gaming?
>
> BTW, my CPU is P-IV2.4C and motherboard used in this case is Abit IS-7E,
> Cosair XMS4000Pro, FX5950.
>
>
>
> "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jv3Fb.25984$F22.9169@lakeread02...
> > I'm not Abit and you won't likely get a response from Abit here (you
> > might...) but think about what you are doing when you select 1:1...
> >
> > with that ratio and an FSB of 250, your ram is now clocked at 250 as

well
> > and given that it is DDR, that means that the effective rate for the ram

> is
> > now 500 Mhz. that is right up there and I think (I admit that I don't

> know
> > for a fact...) that there isn't any ram out there currently that will do
> > that kind of speed. even if you were to relax the timings on the

Advanced
> > Chipset page, I still doubt that you would be able to clock the ram at

> that
> > speed.
> >
> > at 5:4, the DDR is running at 80% of FSB so you would then have 200 for

> the
> > ram speed and when doubled, 400 Mhz which is well within current ram
> > capabilities, at the upper end of the available ram out there...
> >
> > I'm surprised that you only have some video corruption as many systems

> would
> > not even boot to an OS at 250 FSB and 1:1...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thomas Geery
> > Network+ certified
> >
> > ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> > ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> > over 120,000 FTP users served!
> > ^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> > news:bs2b8a$qj3$...
> > > If I adjust these in bios with dimm & cpu at 1:1, 250, or more, my gfx

> > will
> > > be affected, game play will result with image loss or corruption. I've
> > > latest bio 17 for this IS-7E & latest Direct-X 9, gfx drivers etc, so

> can
> > > abit pls look into & reply.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      12-21-2003, 03:09 PM
that really means you have no idea of what a Abit IS-7E is and current
latest DDR out in the market has speed over PC4200 to PC4400.

and this board for Intel's chipset 865PE has options to locked all PCI/AGP
bus, but it's having problem in gfx intensive 3D games when I sync my
CPUDR at 1:1 over 250FSB or within 250.



"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qYgFb.26489$F22.19570@lakeread02...
> wow! Impressive ram! are you locking the AGP/PCI busses?
>
> --
>
> Thomas Geery
> Network+ certified
>
> ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> over 120,000 FTP users served!
> ^^^^^^^
>
>
>
>
> "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> news:bs34m0$1du$...
> > I've these DDR500 dimms which is capable for speed at its designated

> range,
> > but since my CPU when using 5:4, 260, can run in both seti & Prime95 w/o
> > error, I am wondering why can it simly allows problem free when it's
> > theorically feasible at 250FSB, 1:1???
> >
> > My game will be corrupted, but windows still woks perfectly, w/o crash

and
> > running fine with Seti@Home, so, why is it only that when in sync with

> CPU,
> > the gfx will be affected during 3D gaming?
> >
> > BTW, my CPU is P-IV2.4C and motherboard used in this case is Abit IS-7E,
> > Cosair XMS4000Pro, FX5950.
> >
> >
> >
> > "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:jv3Fb.25984$F22.9169@lakeread02...
> > > I'm not Abit and you won't likely get a response from Abit here (you
> > > might...) but think about what you are doing when you select 1:1...
> > >
> > > with that ratio and an FSB of 250, your ram is now clocked at 250 as

> well
> > > and given that it is DDR, that means that the effective rate for the

ram
> > is
> > > now 500 Mhz. that is right up there and I think (I admit that I don't

> > know
> > > for a fact...) that there isn't any ram out there currently that will

do
> > > that kind of speed. even if you were to relax the timings on the

> Advanced
> > > Chipset page, I still doubt that you would be able to clock the ram at

> > that
> > > speed.
> > >
> > > at 5:4, the DDR is running at 80% of FSB so you would then have 200

for
> > the
> > > ram speed and when doubled, 400 Mhz which is well within current ram
> > > capabilities, at the upper end of the available ram out there...
> > >
> > > I'm surprised that you only have some video corruption as many systems

> > would
> > > not even boot to an OS at 250 FSB and 1:1...
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Thomas Geery
> > > Network+ certified
> > >
> > > ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> > > ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> > > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> > > over 120,000 FTP users served!
> > > ^^^^^^^
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> > > news:bs2b8a$qj3$...
> > > > If I adjust these in bios with dimm & cpu at 1:1, 250, or more, my

gfx
> > > will
> > > > be affected, game play will result with image loss or corruption.

I've
> > > > latest bio 17 for this IS-7E & latest Direct-X 9, gfx drivers etc,

so
> > can
> > > > abit pls look into & reply.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      12-21-2003, 04:32 PM

"worldwidedweeb" <> wrote in message
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> that really means you have no idea of what a Abit IS-7E is and current
> latest DDR out in the market has speed over PC4200 to PC4400.
>
> and this board for Intel's chipset 865PE has options to locked all PCI/AGP
> bus, but it's having problem in gfx intensive 3D games when I sync my
> CPUDR at 1:1 over 250FSB or within 250.
>
>

And that really means you ain't got no ****in' idea who you're talkin' to,
worldwidedweeb.

I'd suggest that you stop wearing your sphincter for a headband.



 
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      12-21-2003, 04:34 PM

"worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
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> that really means you have no idea of what a Abit IS-7E is and current
> latest DDR out in the market has speed over PC4200 to PC4400.
>
> and this board for Intel's chipset 865PE has options to locked all PCI/AGP
> bus, but it's having problem in gfx intensive 3D games when I sync my
> CPUDR at 1:1 over 250FSB or within 250.


Easy, there, www. Don't ask for help and then belittle those who offer it.
There is ram out there that will do 1:1 at 250 fsb or a little above, but
it's expensive and high-latency, and not necessarily the best bet for
overclocking. See my specs below.

Obviously heavy gaming stresses the system as a whole, and the memory in
particular, more than just about anything else. Make sure you're using the
loosest memory timings possible, 3,4,4,8, and try a higher DDR voltage of
2.7 or 2.8. Leave all GAT settings at Auto, or else Auto, Auto, Auto,
Disabled, Disabled.

You should also try swapping your DIMMs to different slots and test each
separately to see if one of them may be faulty or clocks higher than the
other.

The other possibility is an overheating video card. If everything works in
Windows at that speed and games show corrupted video, it might not be the
memory or motherboard causing the problem. If the card is overclocked,
return it to default speeds and try again.

My rig:

Abit IC7, bios 1.9
P4C 2.4 @ 275x12=3.3 ghz.
4x256-meg Buffalo Tech PC 3700 running 5:4, 220 mhz at 2,3,2,6.


 
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      12-21-2003, 05:35 PM
"worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
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> that really means you have no idea of what a Abit IS-7E is and current
> latest DDR out in the market has speed over PC4200 to PC4400.
>


I suppose you are correct. The IC7-G and the IS7-G that I currently run...
I have no idea what they are. You would be correct that I was not aware
that Corsair had come out with that ram but I don't spend all of my time
looking into what has just come onto the market since my systems are running
and have been built out since before they were even released.

> and this board for Intel's chipset 865PE has options to locked all PCI/AGP
> bus, but it's having problem in gfx intensive 3D games when I sync my
> CPUDR at 1:1 over 250FSB or within 250.
>


my IS7-G and IC7-G don't have any such issues but I don't run at 1:1 so that
may be the difference. seems to me, that is the AGP/PCI busses were locked,
it would not matter to the graphics card what FSB you were running and if
you were having problems at the 1:1 ratio, the only thing impacted by that
is going to be the ram so you figure it out.


--

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Network+ certified

ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 120,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^





>
>
> "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:qYgFb.26489$F22.19570@lakeread02...
> > wow! Impressive ram! are you locking the AGP/PCI busses?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thomas Geery
> > Network+ certified
> >
> > ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> > ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> > over 120,000 FTP users served!
> > ^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> > news:bs34m0$1du$...
> > > I've these DDR500 dimms which is capable for speed at its designated

> > range,
> > > but since my CPU when using 5:4, 260, can run in both seti & Prime95

w/o
> > > error, I am wondering why can it simly allows problem free when it's
> > > theorically feasible at 250FSB, 1:1???
> > >
> > > My game will be corrupted, but windows still woks perfectly, w/o crash

> and
> > > running fine with Seti@Home, so, why is it only that when in sync with

> > CPU,
> > > the gfx will be affected during 3D gaming?
> > >
> > > BTW, my CPU is P-IV2.4C and motherboard used in this case is Abit

IS-7E,
> > > Cosair XMS4000Pro, FX5950.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:jv3Fb.25984$F22.9169@lakeread02...
> > > > I'm not Abit and you won't likely get a response from Abit here (you
> > > > might...) but think about what you are doing when you select 1:1...
> > > >
> > > > with that ratio and an FSB of 250, your ram is now clocked at 250 as

> > well
> > > > and given that it is DDR, that means that the effective rate for the

> ram
> > > is
> > > > now 500 Mhz. that is right up there and I think (I admit that I

don't
> > > know
> > > > for a fact...) that there isn't any ram out there currently that

will
> do
> > > > that kind of speed. even if you were to relax the timings on the

> > Advanced
> > > > Chipset page, I still doubt that you would be able to clock the ram

at
> > > that
> > > > speed.
> > > >
> > > > at 5:4, the DDR is running at 80% of FSB so you would then have 200

> for
> > > the
> > > > ram speed and when doubled, 400 Mhz which is well within current ram
> > > > capabilities, at the upper end of the available ram out there...
> > > >
> > > > I'm surprised that you only have some video corruption as many

systems
> > > would
> > > > not even boot to an OS at 250 FSB and 1:1...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Geery
> > > > Network+ certified
> > > >
> > > > ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> > > > ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> > > > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> > > > over 120,000 FTP users served!
> > > > ^^^^^^^
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:bs2b8a$qj3$...
> > > > > If I adjust these in bios with dimm & cpu at 1:1, 250, or more, my

> gfx
> > > > will
> > > > > be affected, game play will result with image loss or corruption.

> I've
> > > > > latest bio 17 for this IS-7E & latest Direct-X 9, gfx drivers etc,

> so
> > > can
> > > > > abit pls look into & reply.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      12-21-2003, 05:37 PM
"Skid" <> wrote in message
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>
> "worldwideweb" <> wrote in message
> news:bs4bna$9nk$...
> > that really means you have no idea of what a Abit IS-7E is and current
> > latest DDR out in the market has speed over PC4200 to PC4400.
> >
> > and this board for Intel's chipset 865PE has options to locked all

PCI/AGP
> > bus, but it's having problem in gfx intensive 3D games when I sync my
> > CPUDR at 1:1 over 250FSB or within 250.

>
> Easy, there, www. Don't ask for help and then belittle those who offer it.
> There is ram out there that will do 1:1 at 250 fsb or a little above, but
> it's expensive and high-latency, and not necessarily the best bet for
> overclocking. See my specs below.
>
> Obviously heavy gaming stresses the system as a whole, and the memory in
> particular, more than just about anything else. Make sure you're using the
> loosest memory timings possible, 3,4,4,8, and try a higher DDR voltage of
> 2.7 or 2.8. Leave all GAT settings at Auto, or else Auto, Auto, Auto,
> Disabled, Disabled.
>
> You should also try swapping your DIMMs to different slots and test each
> separately to see if one of them may be faulty or clocks higher than the
> other.
>
> The other possibility is an overheating video card. If everything works in
> Windows at that speed and games show corrupted video, it might not be the
> memory or motherboard causing the problem. If the card is overclocked,
> return it to default speeds and try again.
>


agree with this except that the FSBDR ratio should have no impact on the
issue and if the video card was the problem, that should present itself at
5:4 or 1:1, right?


--

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Network+ certified

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This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
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      12-21-2003, 05:45 PM

"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Skid" <> wrote in message
> news:kYjFb.417166$Dw6.1286691@attbi_s02...
> > The other possibility is an overheating video card. If everything works

in
> > Windows at that speed and games show corrupted video, it might not be

the
> > memory or motherboard causing the problem. If the card is overclocked,
> > return it to default speeds and try again.
> >

>
> agree with this except that the FSBDR ratio should have no impact on the
> issue and if the video card was the problem, that should present itself at
> 5:4 or 1:1, right?


Right. I missed the part in an earlier post that he didn't have problems
even at 260 fsb when running 5:4. Scratch the overheating video card theory.


 
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