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257Roberts
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      05-26-2009, 04:35 AM


I just purchased a used IBM/Lenovo X41 tablet machine. It is running XP
Tablet. I am interested in trying out Windows 7 as a clean install on this
computer. Has anyone done this or have any ideas on the best way to get it
to working? I am somewhat familiar with the W7 install, I have it on a
Virtual Machine running on my desktop. If you have any ideas on the
installation on the X41, I would appreciate your reply. Thanks!
 
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Rainald Taesler
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      05-26-2009, 03:43 PM
257Roberts wrote:

> I just purchased a used IBM/Lenovo X41 tablet machine. It is running

XP
> Tablet. I am interested in trying out Windows 7 as a clean install on

this
> computer. Has anyone done this or have any ideas on the best way to

get it
> to working? I am somewhat familiar with the W7 install, I have it on

a
> Virtual Machine running on my desktop. If you have any ideas on the
> installation on the X41, I would appreciate your reply.


I don't have an IBM/Lenovo but the other day I installed Win7 RC on my
good old HP tc1100 (which had originally been running under XP TabletPC
edition and later under Vista).

Most things worked fine immediately.

In addition I had to install the COMPAQ/HP "Q-Menu" application (which
offers a menu for most features when the "Q" hardware button is used.
This needed the nNvidia graphics drivers (both from HP's XP downloads,
HP does not offer any Vista things for my old model).
Furthermore I installed the XP drivers for the TI card-reader. Although
this is a trouble kid everything went fine in so far.

What dose not work so far:
Three of the hardware buttons (originally assigned for (a) rotation (b)
TIP and (c) Windows Journal) are not operable. All other hardware
buttons work fine.

And there is one bigger problem:
If the pen is moved to the utmost top (in landscape mode) resp. the
utmost right (portrait mode) in an area of app. 9 mm the pen shows a
terrible flickering and is not really functional. This does not happen
in any other area of the screen.
Calibration does not help.
It could be that I has made a mistake when during the install the
initial calibration screen came up where the outer birders had to be
set.
Therefore I will run a new install from scratch.

As a possible advice:
Check on Lenovo's site for the drivers and utilities both for XP and
Vista and try them out in case something is missing in Win7.

Rainald




 
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Beverly Howard
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      05-26-2009, 04:27 PM
Great info... thanks.

With that info, it appears that tablet functionality is becoming an
integral part of ms' DT os... there are several computers which have
screen input capabilities which do not appear to advertise themselves as
"tablets"

>> TI card-reader. <<


is that your SD card reader?

If so, two thoughts...

First, mine is disabled every time the computer comes out of suspend (or
hiberantion) mode... I posted here earlier about devcon.exe which is a
downloadable command line version of device manager.

Once installed, the following shortcut will wake up any sleeping devices
and you can add a "hotkey" to the shortcut such as <ctrl><Alt><C> to
easily execute it.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\devcon.exe rescan

Second, the Fuji SD slot is not SDHC compatible, which is normally not a
problem for me as I avoid SDHC cards because of their incompatibility
with many of my devices such as pocketpc's, this page makes for
interesting reading.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Getti...ds-40379.shtml

Not sure if I trust it as I think SDHC requires SDHC compatible
hardware... i.e. SanDisk offered free card readers with the cards rather
than posting driver updates for their existing SD card readers.

Beverly Howard
 
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      05-26-2009, 09:08 PM
Beverly Howard wrote:

> Great info... thanks.


I'll report again as soon as I fond more.

> With that info, it appears that tablet functionality is becoming an
> integral part of ms' DT os... there are several computers which have
> screen input capabilities which do not appear to advertise themselves
> as "tablets"


Yes, especially the new Touch-Screen series (just like the HP we had
been talking about a longer while ago). And it seems that new "double
touch" technology (which allows for touching more than just one spot at
the same time [similar to what the iPhone brought]) will be implemented
by several manufacturers.
As the the project of UMPCs turned out to have been not too successful,
possibly some netbook sized devices with touch-screen features might be
a new route.
>
>>> TI card-reader. <<

>
> is that your SD card reader?


Yes, a TI 1620 - really old device which on my tc1100 did not allow fir
more than just 1GB. I had tried really everything - trying all drivers
available - under XP, to no avail. The same under Vista. In some thread
in some forum in the web I read that this reader was limited to 1GB
hardware wise.

> If so, two thoughts...
>
> First, mine is disabled every time the computer comes out of suspend
> (or hiberantion) mode...


This never happened with my tc1100. Perhaps one of the Fujitsu issues
discussed in the other thread.

> I posted here earlier about devcon.exe which
> is a downloadable command line version of device manager.


Must have been a longer while ago. No longer available in the Msnews
server :-(
>
> Once installed, the following shortcut will wake up any sleeping
> devices and you can add a "hotkey" to the shortcut such as
> <ctrl><Alt><C> to easily execute it.
>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\devcon.exe rescan


Interesting. Thanks fro the tip.
I'll look around for this utility.

> Second, the Fuji SD slot is not SDHC compatible, which is normally
> not a problem for me as I avoid SDHC cards because of their
> incompatibility with many of my devices such as pocketpc's, this page
> makes for interesting reading.
>
>

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Getti...ds-40379.shtml

Thanks fro the reference. Never tried a SDHC card (mainly because my PDA
dies not support that).
Just struggled with the "2GB Won't work" issue.

Did you try the HP driver the article is based upon?

> Not sure if I trust it as I think SDHC requires SDHC compatible
> hardware... i.e. SanDisk offered free card readers with the cards
> rather than posting driver updates for their existing SD card readers.


LOL
I have several SD to USB adapters (among others a HP "USB Digital Drive"
which has a great design) but I'd really like to be able to use a card >
1GB in the slot of my tc1100.

Rainald


 
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      05-26-2009, 10:20 PM
>> No longer available in the Msnews <<

Not sure what the "scroll time" for all of the msnews servers are, but,
for several years, google groups has mirrored all of the msnews sections.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...tabletpc?hl=en

And, they have full (and good) forum message search capabilities back to
the google groups start date.

Beverly Howard
 
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      05-27-2009, 12:02 AM
Beverly Howard wrote:

>>> No longer available in the Msnews <<

>
> Not sure what the "scroll time" for all of the msnews servers are,


It's always been rather short. At present this group starts with Feb
27.

> but, for several years, google groups has mirrored all of the msnews
> sections.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...tabletpc?hl=en
>
> And, they have full (and good) forum message search capabilities back
> to the google groups start date.


I know.
But I really hate to change from the NewsReader to Google.
BTW: Do you know the syntax to
(a) call a certain thread directly?
(b) call a posting directly with the MID?

TIA
Rainald


 
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      05-27-2009, 03:44 AM
>> BTW: Do you know the syntax to
(a) call a certain thread directly?
(b) call a posting directly with the MID? <<

Mozilla mail/newsreader client makes doing either a non issue... so, I
am not sure your context with respect to "syntax"

searching, however, is far better under google... I bookmark the url and
use google groups only for searching this and other nntp groups, not
reading nor responding.

Beverly Howard

 
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      05-27-2009, 02:57 PM
Thanks fot the Info. I will start the install this evening.

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> 257Roberts wrote:
>
> > I just purchased a used IBM/Lenovo X41 tablet machine. It is running

> XP
> > Tablet. I am interested in trying out Windows 7 as a clean install on

> this
> > computer. Has anyone done this or have any ideas on the best way to

> get it
> > to working? I am somewhat familiar with the W7 install, I have it on

> a
> > Virtual Machine running on my desktop. If you have any ideas on the
> > installation on the X41, I would appreciate your reply.

>
> I don't have an IBM/Lenovo but the other day I installed Win7 RC on my
> good old HP tc1100 (which had originally been running under XP TabletPC
> edition and later under Vista).
>
> Most things worked fine immediately.
>
> In addition I had to install the COMPAQ/HP "Q-Menu" application (which
> offers a menu for most features when the "Q" hardware button is used.
> This needed the nNvidia graphics drivers (both from HP's XP downloads,
> HP does not offer any Vista things for my old model).
> Furthermore I installed the XP drivers for the TI card-reader. Although
> this is a trouble kid everything went fine in so far.
>
> What dose not work so far:
> Three of the hardware buttons (originally assigned for (a) rotation (b)
> TIP and (c) Windows Journal) are not operable. All other hardware
> buttons work fine.
>
> And there is one bigger problem:
> If the pen is moved to the utmost top (in landscape mode) resp. the
> utmost right (portrait mode) in an area of app. 9 mm the pen shows a
> terrible flickering and is not really functional. This does not happen
> in any other area of the screen.
> Calibration does not help.
> It could be that I has made a mistake when during the install the
> initial calibration screen came up where the outer birders had to be
> set.
> Therefore I will run a new install from scratch.
>
> As a possible advice:
> Check on Lenovo's site for the drivers and utilities both for XP and
> Vista and try them out in case something is missing in Win7.
>
> Rainald
>
>
>
>
>

 
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      05-27-2009, 03:26 PM
257Roberts schrieb:

> Thanks fot the Info. I will start the install this evening.


De nada ;-)
Pls keep us posted.

Rainald


 
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      05-27-2009, 03:35 PM
Beverly Howard wrote:

> BTW: Do you know the syntax to
> (a) call a certain thread directly?
> (b) call a posting directly with the MID? <<
>
> Mozilla mail/newsreader client makes doing either a non issue...


???

> so, I am not sure your context with respect to "syntax"


There is a possibility to call a certain thread *directly* by adding
some elements to the URL.
The same for messages with the MID in the URL.

> searching, however, is far better under google... I bookmark the url
> and use google groups only for searching this and other nntp groups,
> not reading nor responding.


I hardly ever posted via Google Groups. But I search there and I read
there when a thread has been scrolled from MS newsserver.

An additional question - although TOT -:
How can one search in multiple groups if a certain site, f.e. all groups
in the microsoft.public.vista.* hierarchy ??

Rainald

 
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