ABIT KG7 with Athlon XP2500 (barton)

j.peszynski · Jul 6, 2003

Hi

Will the Abit KG7 borad running an athlon xp 2500 cpu?
If so could you provide information how to set up the BIOS for using this CPU.

Regards

Geo

Wes Newell · Jul 6, 2003

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:32:24 +0100, j.peszynski wrote:

Hi

Will the Abit KG7 borad running an athlon xp 2500 cpu?

Yes.

If so could you provide information how to set up the BIOS for using this CPU.

Clear cmos, plug it in, go from there. Others can maybe provide specifics.

Gunner · Jul 6, 2003

This is from the ABIT site... and I'm assuming the original post was correct listing the KG7 vs the KT7?

Starting with BIOS ID: 8S
1.. Supports AMD Athlon XP CPU, 0.18 micron process Palomino up to 2100+ and 0.13 micron process Thoroughbred up to 2000+.

If I'm understanding what I'm reading, this board (KG7 and KG7-RAID) works up to the listed CPU's, and the XP 2500+ isn't there. This info can be verified at the following ABIT site at this URL

http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/download_content.jsp?pTITLE=KG7&#Bios...

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"Wes Newell" wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:32:24 +0100, j.peszynski wrote:

Hi

Will the Abit KG7 borad running an athlon xp 2500 cpu?

Yes.

If so could you provide information how to set up the BIOS for using

this

CPU.

Clear cmos, plug it in, go from there. Others can maybe provide specifics.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

TomG · Jul 6, 2003

well, the problem here is that Abit has not updated that information since the newer cpu's have come out. there *can* be some issues with running some of the newer, unlocked cpu's on the KG7 but there are frequently workarounds. you are correct that the board was not designed with those cpu's in mind. that doesn't mean that it won't work but you do take your chances, personal opinion.

I never played with the KG7 and the newer cpu's so I cannot attest to success or failure from firsthand experience.

Gunner · Jul 6, 2003

Agreed
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"TomG" wrote:

well, the problem here is that Abit has not updated that information since the newer cpu's have come out. there *can* be some issues with running some of the newer, unlocked cpu's on the KG7 but there are frequently workarounds. you are correct that the board was not designed with those cpu's in mind. that doesn't mean that it won't work but you do take your chances, personal opinion.

I never played with the KG7 and the newer cpu's so I cannot attest to success or failure from firsthand experience.

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Thomas Geery
Network+ certified
... 2100+ and 0.13 micron process Thoroughbred up to 2000+.

If I'm understanding what I'm reading, this board (KG7 and KG7-RAID) works up to the listed CPU's, and the XP 2500+ isn't there. This info can be
verified at the following ABIT site at this URL

http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/download_content.jsp?pTITLE=KG7&#Bios...

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"Wes Newell" wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:32:24 +0100, j.peszynski wrote:

Hi

Will the Abit KG7 borad running an athlon xp 2500 cpu?

Yes.
...

Wes Newell · Jul 7, 2003

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:27:13 -0400, Gunner wrote:

This is from the ABIT site... and I'm assuming the original post was correct listing the KG7 vs the KT7?

Starting with BIOS ID: 8S
1.. Supports AMD Athlon XP CPU, 0.18 micron process Palomino up to 2100+ and 0.13 micron process Thoroughbred up to 2000+.

And why do you think they list the 2000+ as the fastest tbred that will work? Simply because they don't support an unlocked Tbred with a multiplier of 13 or higher. Their screwed up board remaps the default multiplier to something else. Unlock the 2100+ Palomino and put it in and it won't work either. They don't support it because they don't want to be bothered telling people how to make it work. Well, the Barton 2500+ only has an 11 default multiplier. So it will work out of the box at 11xFSB. I'm sure there are people already running Bartons in the KG7 just like about any other socket A board out there.

If I'm understanding what I'm reading, this board (KG7 and KG7-RAID) works up to the listed CPU's, and the XP 2500+ isn't there. This info can be verified at the following ABIT site at this URL

http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/download_content.jsp?pTITLE=KG7&#Bios...

The Abit site is worthless when it comes to this. According to them, my board won't support any XP, let alone a Tbred. And we all know that's not correct.

Gunner · Jul 7, 2003

Wes, the original post simply asked...

Hi

Will the Abit KG7 borad running an athlon xp 2500 cpu?
If so could you provide information how to set up the BIOS for using this CPU.

Regards

Geo

As I re-read that post, I guess one could argue it's an overclocking question. It's obvious I didn't take it that way. Since I'm not into OCing because I don't know enough about it, I would not have answered it but left the question to be answered by people who understand overclocking/tweaking much better than I do. I don't doubt for a minute that CPU's can be made to work in Mobo's that they were not designed for (the OC'ers make it happen everyday). So, bottom lining Geo's original question, if you or others here say it can be done I don't have a problem with that. Many of you are much more knowledgeable in that arena than I'll ever be. I simply answered Geo based on exactly what I saw in his post.

So Wes, when you say "And why do you think they list the 2000+ as the fastest tbred that will work?" I don't have a clue why ABIT lists what they do, but that is all I (as a rookie) have to go on. I'm not in a position to be buying new CPU's/Mobo's because I fried things in an attempt to squeeze out some last bit of speed. I admire people who can do this and succeed. Enough said... Gunner __________________________________________________________

if XP 2500+
"Wes Newell" wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:27:13 -0400, Gunner wrote:

This is from the ABIT site... and I'm assuming the original post was correct listing the KG7 vs the KT7?

Starting with BIOS ID: 8S
1.. Supports AMD Athlon XP CPU, 0.18 micron process Palomino up to 2100+ and 0.13 micron process Thoroughbred up to 2000+.

And why do you think they list the 2000+ as the fastest tbred that will work? Simply because they don't support an unlocked Tbred with a multiplier of 13 or higher. Their screwed up board remaps the default multiplier to something else. Unlock the 2100+ Palomino and put it in and it won't work either. They don't support it because they don't want to be bothered telling people how to make it work. Well, the Barton 2500+ only has an 11 default multiplier. So it will work out of the box at 11xFSB. I'm sure there are people already running Bartons in the KG7 just like about any other socket A board out there.

... works up to the listed CPU's, and the XP 2500+ isn't there. This info can be
verified at the following ABIT site at this URL

http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/download_content.jsp?pTITLE=KG7&#Bios...

The Abit site is worthless when it comes to this. According to them, my board won't support any XP, let alone a Tbred. And we all know that's not correct.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

Vedran Hunjek · Jul 7, 2003

Gunner wrote:

Wes, the original post simply asked...

Hi

Will the Abit KG7 borad running an athlon xp 2500 cpu?
If so could you provide information how to set up the BIOS for using this CPU.

Regards

Geo
...

it has nothing to do with overclocking, if you can't do it yourself, read this:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030703/index.html

and buy it..

v*

Gunner · Jul 7, 2003

I stand corrected and I miswrote my thought (another good reason why I should have not tried to help good ol Geo... it probably isn't an overclocking issue. My point is it's an issue that someone wants to run a CPU on a board that is shown on the ABIT site as not supporting "that" CPU. I don't care one way or the other if people can get it to go on a Mobo that states it doesn't support this CPU or that CPU.

More power to those that can do that... I don't have the knowledge to do that and I wish I understood tweaking BIOS/Mobo's much better than I do.. I did read the article you referenced and I appreciate your response. Thanks... ___________________________________________________________

"Vedran Hunjek" wrote:

it has nothing to do with overclocking, if you can't do it yourself, read this:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030703/index.html

and buy it..

v*

Vedran Hunjek · Jul 8, 2003

Gunner wrote:

I stand corrected and I miswrote my thought (another good reason why I should have not tried to help good ol Geo... it probably isn't an overclocking issue. My point is it's an issue that someone wants to run a CPU on a board that is shown on the ABIT site as not supporting "that" CPU. I don't care one way or the other if people can get it to go on a Mobo that states it doesn't support this CPU or that CPU.

More power to those that can do that... I don't have the knowledge to do that and I wish I understood tweaking BIOS/Mobo's much better than I do.. I did read the article you referenced and I appreciate your response. Thanks... ___________________________________________________________

you are welcome..

anyhow, this motherboard was designed without higher multipliers in mind, but you can change multipliers in several ways, even without damaging the bridges, that you don't loose warrenty for cpu..

the bottom line is, do the 5 min. research on the topic and you are ready for that operation..

or buy new motherboard, it's your choice, but you won't gain much with newer motherboards..

cheers

v*

Gunner · Jul 8, 2003

Thanks again and have a good one... Gunner
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"Vedran Hunjek" wrote:

Gunner wrote:
I stand corrected and I miswrote my thought (another good reason why I should have not tried to help good ol Geo... it probably isn't an
overclocking issue. My point is it's an issue that someone wants to run

a

CPU on a board that is shown on the ABIT site as not supporting "that"

CPU.

I don't care one way or the other if people can get it to go on a Mobo that states it doesn't support this CPU or that CPU.

More power to those that can do that... I don't have the knowledge to do that and I wish I understood tweaking BIOS/Mobo's much better than I do.. I did read the article you referenced and I appreciate your response. Thanks...
___________________________________________________________

you are welcome..

anyhow, this motherboard was designed without higher multipliers in mind, but you can change multipliers in several ways, even without damaging the bridges, that you don't loose warrenty for cpu..

the bottom line is, do the 5 min. research on the topic and you are ready for that operation.. ...