advice on purchase needed please

Discussion in 'Shuttle' started by Alistair, Mar 13, 2005.

  1. Alistair

    Alistair Guest

    Hi folks,

    I'm just about to go ahead and upgrade my ageing XP1600 system with a nice
    shiny new shuttle....but...really don't know what to go for.

    I've been looking at the SN41G2, SN45G (or SN45GV2) or the SN85G4 (all AMD
    as I've been using AMD for the last 12 years)

    The first two are both Socket A systems (not that it's a bad thing but am I
    limiting myself a bit?). I don't upgrade everyweek (as you might be able to
    tell from still running an XP1600), so I'll need it to last 18 months or so.
    However they do have a reduced cost of about £50 over the 85G4. But then the
    85 supports the socket 754 processor so more power, bit more furture proof,
    but it also has a card reader that I don't want as I'll never use it and
    don't want to pay for something that I wont use.

    and as for the's all very confusing. what is a newcastle or
    a winchester or a barton or a sempron etc etc etc??

    so..I'm a bit stuck...

    can anyone help?

    many thanks
    Alistair, Mar 13, 2005
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  2. This week I built a system using an SN41G2 V3 and I'm *very* impressed.
    Ok, I'm only using a small, cool 40Gb HD and the onboard graphics, but the
    only time the fan spins up to anything like full (noisy) speed is when it
    first boots for a few seconds and when I gave it a stress test looping a
    video benchmark. In normal use it's very quiet (not silent, but
    definitely quiet).

    Build quality is excellent, the heatpipe is a great way of shifting heat
    from the CPU to the edge of the box, and although I bought this as part of
    a project for a friend I'll be very happy if he doesn't want it. My main
    desktop/email PC is getting long in the tooth (pc133, xp1700+) and the
    Shuttle box would make a very great replacement.

    I suppose I should say I'm only running a Barton 2500+ in it at stock
    speeds (166MHz fsb), and I haven't bothered trying to push the processor
    faster; it's not a games box where I want every ounce of performance
    squeezing out of the hardware, with noisy consequences. That'll be helping
    keep temps down and noise at bay. But I've got the BIOS set to spin up the
    fan at 40C for the CPU, and even then it's hardly ever doing anything more
    than spin the main fan gently. Summer will do doubt change that, but
    there's plenty of headroom to play with, and 40C is very cool for a
    processor; I'd happily have it up at 50C.

    If I do part with this Shuttle I'll soon buy another for myself. If I do
    I'll buy a mobile Barton for it...
    ....which runs at low voltage and ought to be even cooler and quieter,
    while having plenty of flexibility to be pushed hard if I want. But if I
    was after every ounce of performance or planning to use a hot modern vid
    card I wouldn't be using a Shuttle anyway. Although the airflow is well
    designed, the whole point of a Shuttle (for me anyway) is a small, neat,
    quiet PC for everyday desktop use. Throw in an AMD64 processor and a
    9800Pro vid card and you'd be spending a lot of time listening to the fans
    run hard. Ok, there are mods you can do to improve cooling, but that kind
    of defeats the whole point of owning such a stylish little box.

    Think I've waffled on enough, don't you? :) Good luck making your choice.

    Andrew McP
    Andrew MacPherson, Mar 13, 2005
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