Athlon HSF

anthonyi · Jul 21, 2003

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of the Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

My question is: what fan can I use to give me adequate cooling with little noise? Mobo is NF7-S v2.0. My current Globalwin CBK II 58 provides adequate cooling (BIOS 1.7 reports 52C under full load) and is fairly quiet. Although the Globalwin site suggests this fan is rated up to XP 2800+ I'm not sure that such a CPU would be sufficiently cooled.

Any thoughts/experience?

TIA...

A

John Russell · Jul 21, 2003

"anthonyi" wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of the Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

My question is: what fan can I use to give me adequate cooling with little noise? Mobo is NF7-S v2.0. My current Globalwin CBK II 58 provides adequate cooling (BIOS 1.7 reports 52C under full load) and is fairly quiet. Although the Globalwin site suggests this fan is rated up to XP 2800+ I'm not sure that such a CPU would be sufficiently cooled.

Any thoughts/experience?

TIA...

A

Try the Aerocool Deep Impact using heat pipe technology.

LoRe · Jul 21, 2003

What Version is your 1800? I.e. old Palimno core or a Thougherbred?

If its the Palimno, then a new thoughbred / Barton will work just fine on your heatsink and fan, due to they have less heat dissipation running at only 1.65v as opposed to Palimno`s 1.75 core.

If however you have a Thougherbred 1800xp then check what version it is as there is a version of the 1800xp Chip that Overclocks Like a Bit** with good cooling it will hit 2.4-2.5 mhz.

"anthonyi" wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of the Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

My question is: what fan can I use to give me adequate cooling with little noise? Mobo is NF7-S v2.0. My current Globalwin CBK II 58 provides adequate cooling (BIOS 1.7 reports 52C under full load) and is fairly quiet. Although the Globalwin site suggests this fan is rated up to XP 2800+ I'm not sure that such a CPU would be sufficiently cooled.

Any thoughts/experience?

TIA...

A

patcal · Jul 21, 2003

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of the Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

I'm running Barton 2500+ using a Coolermaster CP5-6J31C HSF which is recommended on AMD's site up to 3200+.

Temp never goes above 40.

P

minus200 · Jul 21, 2003

if you buy a retail box barton (3 year warranty) then the fan/heatsink that comes with it is fine for overclocks up to 2GHz or even 2.1

your Globalwin is probably ok

I am runing a Coolmaster Aero7 mainly because it is quiet and cools very well

as a side note: recently I was told that AMD and Intel void warranties if you remove the thermal pad from the H/S. I am not sure if that is true since I have never damaged a CPU and I have tried some specutalar overclocks. (I know I should have never said that)

anthonyi wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of the Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

My question is: what fan can I use to give me adequate cooling with little noise? Mobo is NF7-S v2.0. My current Globalwin CBK II 58 provides adequate cooling (BIOS 1.7 reports 52C under full load) and is fairly quiet. Although the Globalwin site suggests this fan is rated up to XP 2800+ I'm not sure that such a CPU would be sufficiently cooled.

Any thoughts/experience?
...

MJH · Jul 22, 2003

Only AMD stipulation [I can find] which comes close to what you were told:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_867_2139,00.html

"...This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith..."

So be sure you don't throw away the HSF you get with your boxed chip. I think I read somewhere the number you need for warranty service is also on the HSF.

Of course this would just about void warranty on every chip used by almost every person in these NG's. <g>

M. 30722. 12:40am ET
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"minus200" wrote:

if you buy a retail box barton (3 year warranty) then the fan/heatsink that comes with it is fine for overclocks up to 2GHz or even 2.1

your Globalwin is probably ok

I am runing a Coolmaster Aero7 mainly because it is quiet and cools very well as a side note: recently I was told that AMD and Intel void warranties if you remove the thermal pad from the H/S. I am not sure if that is true since I have never damaged a CPU and I have tried some specutalar overclocks. (I know I should have never said that)

anthonyi wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of

the

Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

My question is: what fan can I use to give me adequate cooling with little noise? Mobo is NF7-S v2.0. My current Globalwin CBK II 58 provides adequate cooling (BIOS 1.7 reports 52C under full load) and is fairly quiet. Although the Globalwin site suggests this fan is rated up to XP 2800+ I'm not sure that such a CPU would be sufficiently cooled.

Any thoughts/experience?

TIA...

A

John Russell · Jul 22, 2003

"minus200" wrote:

if you buy a retail box barton (3 year warranty) then the fan/heatsink that comes with it is fine for overclocks up to 2GHz or even 2.1

your Globalwin is probably ok

I am runing a Coolmaster Aero7 mainly because it is quiet and cools very well as a side note: recently I was told that AMD and Intel void warranties if you remove the thermal pad from the H/S. I am not sure if that is true since I have never damaged a CPU and I have tried some specutalar overclocks. (I know I should have never said that)

anthonyi wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently running an XP 1800+ and considering upgrading to one of

the

Barton processors...probably 2500 or 2600 looking at the prices.

My question is: what fan can I use to give me adequate cooling with little noise? Mobo is NF7-S v2.0. My current Globalwin CBK II 58 provides adequate cooling (BIOS 1.7 reports 52C under full load) and is fairly quiet. Although the Globalwin site suggests this fan is rated up to XP 2800+ I'm not sure that such a CPU would be sufficiently cooled.

Any thoughts/experience?

TIA...

A

AMD either sell a retail package or OEM versions. OEM's know that they have to stick to AMD's approved thermal solutions to keep the warrenty. Many companies also sell the OEM versions to end users. We, the end users, are not told what the approved thermal solutions are when we buy them. But since most End Users buying OEM cpu's are doing so to overclock them the gureentee has been invalidated anyway.

What speed do you run your aero7 at to call it quiet? You have to be shifting from a 6000rpm Delta to call it quiet at anything over 3000rpm.

The fan on the Deep Impact is quiet at around 24dB. It's a puny little fan compared to most of the fans used on other athlon coolers. But then it's job isn't to cool the CPU, that's done by the heat pipe. It's job is to condense the coolant. Most normal coolers require the fan to create the thermal gradient required for heat to flow from the cpu. A heat pipe does not.

Wblane · Jul 22, 2003

The fan doesn't "create" the thermal gradient. Have you ever studied thermodynamics? The gradient would be there with or without the fam.

he coolant. Most normal coolers require the fan to create the thermal gradient required for heat to flow from the cpu. A heat pipe does not.

-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

John Russell · Jul 22, 2003

"Wblane" wrote:

The fan doesn't "create" the thermal gradient. Have you ever studied thermodynamics? The gradient would be there with or without the fam.

Oh come on read between the lines. Someone misses out a phrase and you flame them. Every time anybody posts on a NG it's inaccurate through omission as no one is trying to post a treatise on the subject.

Does one really have to add "sufficient to cool the CPU" as most people would take that as read. If the gradient without the fan was sufficient they wouldn't fit a fan, and that is the case with cooler running devices.

Wblane · Jul 22, 2003

Huh? I'd figure the fan would reduce the temperature gradient by convection. I don't know what you mean by the below. Sufficiently large or small? I'm guessing sufficiently small.

I don't see how you could call my response a flame. It wasn't a personal attack in any way. I've studied only the basics of thermodynamics so I'm no expert.

If the gradient without the fan was sufficient they
wouldn't fit a fan

-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)