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Backup pgm to clone disk

Discussion in 'Laptops' started by ps56k, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. ps56k

    ps56k Guest

    I have used Acronis on my XP machines for years
    to clone disks - to migrate to larger disks.
    I'm lucky to have Dell laptops with modular bays
    that can handle a hard drive bay module vs external USB drive.

    Well - our latest Win7 64-bit Dell Latitude E6400 laptop
    doesn't have any modular bays - but several nice USB ports.

    I've seen several comments about the recent Acronis versions being buggy.

    SO - suggestions for Backup/Clone software for Win7
    to create the bootable clone using a USB external SATA drive as the target ?
     
    ps56k, Dec 4, 2013
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    mike Guest

    look into ESATA.

    I've used older versions of Acronis.
    There are some gotchas.
    Win7 puts that small hidden partition at the front.
    That messed up the drive numbering, so my version of acronis
    wouldn't restore properly.
    I used Gparted to partition the drive without the hidden partition
    and reinstalled the OS.
    After that, backup/restore worked for the same drive interface.
    But I never was able to backup an IDE drive and restore it to SATA.
    Had to reinstall everything on SATA. Then Acronis worked for SATA.

    I have had instances where the restore seemed to work, but wouldn't boot.
    Booting the recovery drive and letting it automagically fix the
    boot problem usually worked.

    There may be activation issues. Most of my machines are Dell, so
    I wouldn't see them.

    I never tried to boot from USB because of the speed issue.
    No advice on whether restoring to USB would be bootable.

    Might be interesting to google sysprep.
    I managed to get a drive moved to a different machine with it,
    but you'll need a license that permits that.
     
    mike, Dec 4, 2013
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    clare Guest

    Both EasyUS and HDClone work well.
     
    clare, Dec 5, 2013
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    ...winston Guest

    mike wrote, On 12/4/2013 5:51 PM:

    I've restored using Acronis (version 10, 11, 13) Win7 Pro with and
    without a System Reserved (no drive letter) partition as the first
    partition to IDE and SATA drives. Image creation and restoration using
    the bootable media or the desktop Acronis version have been successful
    with one sole failure.

    That failure, my fault, was when I inadvertently created the the image
    for both drives (both Win7 Pro) on a dual boot (2 drive system) from the
    second booting operating system drive and later initiated the
    restoration from the first bootable operating system drive which mixed
    up the correct drive letters (since the active booted o/s was always C:)

    Running Windows repair would have taken care of it but fortunately it
    was only necessary to rebuild the boot manager using EasyBCD edit
    assigning the correct drive letter C and D to the first and second o/s.
     
    ...winston, Dec 5, 2013
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    Sir_George Guest

    I use IFL (Image For Linux) from TerabyteUnlimited. They, also, have a
    IFW (Image For Windows) package. Visit there site for more information.
     
    Sir_George, Dec 5, 2013
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  6. ps56k

    clare Guest

    It's EaseUS, by the way. EaseUS ToDo backup. HDClone is from Miray.

    The self booting disk from EaseUS is a windows disk. Miray has a Unix
    style boot (non-windows anyway). Both work very well - can clone from
    any drive type to any drive type, doesn't matter what size, or how
    many of what kind of partitions, as long as there is enough space on
    the drive. Can clone drives, image drives, image partitions - you
    name it.

    And both of them are one heck of a lot less expensive than acronis
     
    clare, Dec 5, 2013
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    If using USB, put the disk to be cloned in the USB enclosure (or
    adapter) and the disk to be written-to in the PC. I've found that
    prevents a proportion of failures when trying to write large volumes of
    information to USB devices.
     
    Philip Herlihy, Dec 5, 2013
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    Why - do Dell use volume licencing or similar, and you have a Dell
    restore disc?
     
    J. P. Gilliver (John), Dec 6, 2013
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  9. ps56k

    Paul Guest

    On the older OSes, an OEM installation uses SLIC activation.
    That means, activation is handled transparently.

    Windows 8 changes that.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Wi...36.html?&_suid=138634944974103446689018832034

    "To crack down on piracy, manufacturers will be required to write
    a unique Windows product key -- which is associated with the
    hardware hash -- into the system's BIOS instead of using the same
    product key for every shipped desktop or laptop."

    On the older OSes, a table in the BIOS called SLIC, was
    the authorization for OEM activation. You might even find
    that a number of "Dell" installation CDs or DVDs, could
    work because the SLIC was effectively saying "this is a Dell".
    In other words, your Dell computer with Dell motherboard,
    might be able to run a Dell WinXP CD or a Dell Win7 DVD
    (plus or minus drivers). The Windows 8 scheme, by comparison,
    sounds more specific.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS#SLIC

    Paul
     
    Paul, Dec 6, 2013
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