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bad clusters/sectors on new laptop, chkdsk gets stuck trying to repair

Discussion in 'Laptops' started by techman41973, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. There is no reason to believe that the error message has anything to
    do with bad sectors on the disk. I guess it must be some kind of
    chkdsk bug.

    To examine if the disk has bad sectors, you can use the disk
    manufacturer tool for that.

    Backup your data, check the disk using the disk manufacturer tool, and
    if the disk has no errors after that, reinstall the operating system.
    If the problem persist, consider other explanations than the hard
    disk.

    Note that no versions of Windows knows about repairing bad sectors or
    about spare sectors, so this has nothing to do with disk spare
    sectors. All that Windows can do, is to stop using bad sectors. That
    method has the drawback that read attempts may be made to the bad
    sectors anyway, during read ahead.
     
    Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, Aug 1, 2007
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  2. techman41973

    Eric Gisin Guest

    Idiot. You don't even know the diff between sectors and clusters.
    Idiot. SMART has been standard for years.
     
    Eric Gisin, Aug 1, 2007
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  3. techman41973

    Eric Gisin Guest

    Fucking moron. The diagnostics from HP or the drive manufacture will do so for $0.
     
    Eric Gisin, Aug 1, 2007
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  4. techman41973

    isaac4all Guest

    hi
    stop distubing your sell simple buy a new hard disk for your hp
    laptop. since your hp laptop is under warrantee.

    isaac okoye
    information rules the world
    www.finditall100free.ds4a.com
     
    isaac4all, Aug 1, 2007
    #24
  5. techman41973

    Val Guest

    Fucking moron. The diagnostics from HP or the drive manufacture will do so
    for $0.
    ~~~~~~~~

    Hey, potty mouth! The diagnostic will tell you something is wrong. That's
    already known. SpinRite will, in most cases, be able to save any data
    that's on those failed/failing sectors/clusters/chunks o'disk, copying it to
    good areas.

    Enough with all the name calling - if you don't agree with what someone else
    says, disagree. But you don't have to be disagreeable about it.
     
    Val, Aug 1, 2007
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  6. *IF* something is wrong, Bozo. That's still to be determined.
    No, it's not. That only happened inside your fake crystal ball, Bozo.
    Which there won't be, in your stupid scenario, remember.
    It's the only way your type learns anything.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #26
  7. Only you and everone you, Bozo the clowns.
    Three other persons say otherwise, it's not just me.
    Even someone as stupid as you should be able to count to three.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #27
  8. Hey, another Bozo, that I appear to have overlooked.

    Of course it does.
    Fully transparant and invisible to the OS.
    No you don't. You just get write errors and nothing further happens.
    And that only when all sectors in the partition free space are all marked
    as a pending bad sector.
    Else any write to the free space by the OS just goes unchecked, without a-
    ny resulting error. And you loose (partition) capacity anyway when the OS
    sets aside bad sectors (per cluster) in the file system administration and
    replaces them with free clusters, whether the drive is out of spares, or not.

    And even someone as stupid as Bozo should be able to recognize that the used
    and free space add up to the full drive capacity without any loss of capacity.

    alt.comp.hardware, comp.sys.laptops, full of Bozos.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #28
  9. [tonnes of wrecked quoting snipped]
    Bwahaha. Nice one Bozo. Precious.
    It was utterly clueless.
    And another one to top it off.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #29
  10. But the one that can't tell a sector from a cluster has. Du-uh!
    The Germans and Japs thought they were superiour too.
    Yeah, me, myself and 3 others.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #30
  11. No, really?
    Careful Bozo, or someone else will make you eat those words
    just to wipe that smug grin off of your face.

    Oh wait, they already did.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
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  12. No, really?
    You must be wrong, because 3 people in the other groups say you are wrong.
    And since all 3 say exactly the same, almost word for word, they must be
    right.
    Ah, now why didn't I think of that. Oh wait, I did.
    Gee, where else did I hear that.
    Apparently on the assumption that the 'disk manufacturer tool' will over-
    write the drive. Usually they don't, in default mode. You have to run them in
    destructive mode for that result to happen and some will just test the bad
    sectors only, without immediately destroying the full contents of the drive.
    Which is why the 'disk manufacturer tool' should be run to get rid of them,
    permanently.

    So, Bozo the clowns, now for you to tell Svend here how wrong he is and that
    he needs to learn how harddrives and OSes work.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #32
  13. Three people that concur with me, telling the same thing.
    Three people saying clusters is not sectors.
    One of them a recognized specialist in filesystem repairs.

    Now suck it up, Bozo. Oh, and learn how to quote properly.
     
    Folkert Rienstra, Aug 1, 2007
    #33
  14. techman41973

    Eric Gisin Guest

    SpinRite rarely fixes bad sectors. The drive remaps most of them anyway.
    **** off. If people give bad advice, shit happens.
     
    Eric Gisin, Aug 2, 2007
    #34
  15. techman41973

    Quaoar Guest

    So, you have a new notebook, without partitioning? HP usually installs
    a recovery partition. In XP this would normally be d:, but it is the
    first partition on the drive. However, if you run chkdsk /r (/f /r is
    redundant, I believe), it is not clear that the partition being checked
    is c:, the boot partition; or d:, the first (recovery) partition. The
    recovery partition (first partition, d:) is generally full, with no
    extra space, which could lead to the errors you report. I would work
    around this possible problem with partition identification by running
    chkdsk c: /r where you identify the partition you want to check.

    Q
     
    Quaoar, Aug 2, 2007
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  16. techman41973

    M.I.5¾ Guest

    Oh well, the killfile beckons.

    Plonk.
     
    M.I.5¾, Aug 2, 2007
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  17. techman41973

    M.I.5¾ Guest

    Judging by your posting style, you must be the one still learning - after
    all that is what 13 year olds are supposed to be doing at school isn't it?

    Still, at least I won't see any more of your childish rants.
     
    M.I.5¾, Aug 2, 2007
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  18. techman41973

    M.I.5¾ Guest

    Oh **** off.
     
    M.I.5¾, Aug 2, 2007
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  19. techman41973

    M.I.5¾ Guest

    I do know the diffeence, but as I said, I kept it simple. The OP probably
    doesn't care whether his disk has run out of sectors, clusters, bits, bytes
    or anything else.
    SMART may be standard in disk drives, but it is by no means universal in the
    PCs themselves. Out IT dept has just sourced 500 core duo PCs, none of
    which have SMART built into the PC.
     
    M.I.5¾, Aug 2, 2007
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  20. techman41973

    M.I.5¾ Guest

    I have not changed the quoting from what you posted, so I suggest you go and
    ask your teacher nicely (if you know how - which you obviously don't) to
    explain it to you.
     
    M.I.5¾, Aug 2, 2007
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