CT-7NJL6 w/ barton 3000+ only running at 1300

Like so many of you good folks, I bought a barebones from Tiger Direct
and had my share of problems. It is now running stable but only at
1300 MHz. Am I missing something? Either in the BIOS or the jumpers
on the board itself. Please explain the correct jumper settings and
the BIOS settings as if I were a 3rd grader.

THX

 

upper left of the agp/video card there is the jumper, jp3. there
should be a picture in the manual if you have a question on it.
basicly just move it over 1 pin.


ud

 

Thanks UD,
Tried that and still showed 1.30, so in the BIOS I changed the FSB
Frequency from 166 to 200. Still I only see a 1.30 GHz. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

THX

 

Refer to page 30 of your manual, section 3-7.

This board's Optimal setting is actually underclocking your chip by
large margin.

In BIOS, change your Freq/Voltage from Optimal to Aggressive. Thi
will take you to 1.99 GHz, which is still a bit low for this chip'
rating. If that is stable, you can try to overclock the chip b
kicking it up to Turbo or Expert and playing with those settings

I left mine at Aggressive, because I am Chicken.

In my experience, on most boards you can specify the frequency;
guess Chaintech dumbed down the process with this one

There are no temperature sensor displays in BIOS either; too bad

 

What CPU do you have

 

Tried it all and can not get the cpu up past 1.30. Cpuz.exe shows a
13X at 100 MHz and the memory at 1:1 with 100 MHz. That seems right
but why cannot I get this same coordination at a faster FSB speed?

 

what speed memory are you using?

when making these changes or whenever, does the computer reboot or
shut down on it’s own?

make sure the jumper that is located to the upper left of the agp card
slot and place it on the bottom 2 pins. boot, hit delete and go into
the bios right side of the display. load optimized defaults, hit
enter, y for yes, move down to save and exit, hit enter.

ud

 

ok...Your symptoms are consistent with JP3 set at 100 MHz. My board
came set to the higher bus frequency, so I did not have to change it.


What pins do you have shorted? Refer to you manual, page 15 and
verify that you have the jumper on pins 1 and 2. To get a higher CPU
speed, you will need to change it. If you have already set it right,
look for some foreign object that is shorting the pins.

Also, your manual, page 8 shows that you should use a multiplier of
10.5 for a 200 MHZ FSB, 13 for 166. Did you try both variations?

 

One more thing...

I have been running my system (7NJL6 w/ XP2900) since mid-Feburary
without a crash...I just rebooted my system and went into the BIOS.


Enter BIOS, Go into Frequency/Voltage control, and set the following:



System Interface: Expert
FSB Frequency: 200 MHZ
CPU Interface: Aggressive
Memory Frequency: Auto

Memory Timings: Optimal


And tell us what you get.

HTH!

 

OK, good friends, I'm up to 2.16 MHz. Had to reset JP1 twice but it
finally booted with Optimized default loaded. Thanks for all the help
but will have to try again as soon as Rita goes through and we have
stabilized electricity. Being in Southwest Louisiana is not always
fun. I may be out of electricity and AC for a while but lots of
liquor and ice. I have to endure it but I don't have remember it.
Later.

THX


On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:33:54 GMT,

 

I would try to set the CPU for the intended bus speed, revealed by the
part number on the processor. Verify at AMD, the word is that there
are some that got rebadged to a lower speed. Also where are you
checking the speed at. My Sempron 2800 333 bus runs at a true near
2Ghz. the 2800 is a rating.
Also check if there is a label on the RAM if it is Ultra. I thought I
was getting pc3200 400MHz RAM from the ad and the BIOS detects as
such from the SPD. I found the label actually says 266MHz and
manually setting to such creates stability.
Start with BIOS reset per manual, boot to BIOS & set to optimum,
boot machine and check Device Manager for proper hardware install. I
have found that when viewing by device connection, the tree will
reveal wrong connections to computer.

 

I would try to set the CPU for the intended bus speed, revealed by the
part number on the processor. Verify at AMD, the word is that there
are some that got rebadged to a lower speed. Also where are you
checking the speed at. My Sempron 2800 333 bus runs at a true near
2Ghz. the 2800 is a rating.
Also check if there is a label on the RAM if it is Ultra. I thought I
was getting pc3200 400MHz RAM from the ad and the BIOS detects as
such from the SPD. I found the label actually says 266MHz and
manually setting to such creates stability.
Start with BIOS reset per manual, boot to BIOS & set to optimum,
boot machine and check Device Manager for proper hardware install. I
have found that when viewing by device connection, the tree will
reveal wrong connections to computer.

 

ok, 2167 is the right answer. This tells me you have a 333MHz chip.

Stay safe; I grew up in Florida so I know what you're feeling!

 

glad you got it. if have to clear your bios again, remember to pull
the power plug on the psu.

have fun and don’t try flying a kite.

ud

 

Guywrote:
Refer to page 30 of your manual, section 3-7.

will take you to 1.99 GHz, which is still a bit low for this chip's
rating. If that is stable, you can try to overclock the chip by
kicking it up to Turbo or Expert and playing with those settings.

guess Chaintech dumbed down the process with this one.

Hello, like so many participants on this and other forums, I have a
lot of issues with Chaintech, especially the 7NJL6 mobo heavily
promoted in recent months by online shops such as TigerDirect. I
bought the mobo bundled with the AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 333 MHz, Barton
Core from TD back in mid-September. It was nothing but trouble, with
frequent lock ups and blue screens. I spent probably 50 hours total
troubleshooting, swapping components, etc., and finally returned the
mobo to Chaintech for a replacement.

The replacement has been running stably, but with a puzzling and
annoying twist - POST reports MEMORY FREQUENCY of 100 MHz, with or
without DDR Enabled, and no matter what I do with BIOS settings or
how or where I install the memory in the three banks.

System info:

7NJL6 with AMD Athlon XP 3000+, 333 MHz FSB, Barton Core
Vantec iON 2 350W PSU
Windows Millenium, fully updated
3 sticks of Ultra DDR PC3200, 400 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS
Chaintech 7.1 Channel PCI 24HT-S Sound Card
Seagate 120 GB EIDE HDD
Floppy
Samsung TSST H552B CD/DVD+/-RW

The really curious thing is, no matter what I do, the system's
performance scores using Symantec System Works 2004's bundled
Performance Tests (www.passmark.com) are the same: 230-240 Pass Mark;
710-730 Megaflops. The CPU runs at the correct, rated speed of 2158
MHz (1.3 x 166), with JP3 jumper at default setting (pins 1,2
jumpered for 133/166/200 MHz). I've found that the one BIOS setting
on this board that have direct, immediate effect on CPU speed is the
Gate A20 Option - it must be left at the default setting of FAST, not
Normal, otherwise the CPU speed drops to 1300 MHz.

I've tweaked and tried virtually every likely BIOS setting to try to
alter this immovable MEMORY FREQENCY of 100 MHz, with no success.
I've tried the Aggressive setting for the CPU INTERFACE options; SPD
vs. AUTO in the MEMORY FREQUENCY settings, and populated the memory
banks with 2 or 3 sticks at alternate positions. All of which produce
no difference in the 100 MHz memory frequency in POST, and negligible
differences in performance scores.

Guy, I too was "chicken" to go any further with "turbo" or "expert"
in selecting CPU Interface options, especially since I found that
with my particular 7NJL6 board, I can not select 200 MHz FSB - I've
tried it twice, and both times the system wouldn't boot at all and I
had to clear the CMOS and start over.

Is it possible that this Chaintech board has a double- or quad- pumped
FSB bus? If so, my system at least is running at 200 MHz minimum? The
Chaintech 7NJL6 User Guide is poorly written, with omissions, and
doesn't mention this item. The Chaintech web site and Tech Service is
not of much help either, although the latter has returned my emails
rather promptly. Its latest advice is for me to reflash the BIOS,
which I am not about to do as the risk/reward ratio is abysmal.

You, and several others on this board are obviously skilled and
knowledgeable with computers. I am hoping you can point to something
I may have missed. I confess to considerable ignorance on the subject
of changing computer speeds and timing - I've never tried overclocking
for that reason, especially since I am not a gamer.

Any advice or comment is extremely welcome and appreciated. Sorry for
a rather long post, but I wanted to be clear about what I want to
say.

 

Guywrote:
Refer to page 30 of your manual, section 3-7.

will take you to 1.99 GHz, which is still a bit low for this chip's
rating. If that is stable, you can try to overclock the chip by
kicking it up to Turbo or Expert and playing with those settings.

guess Chaintech dumbed down the process with this one.

Hello, like so many participants on this and other forums, I have a
lot of issues with Chaintech, especially the 7NJL6 mobo heavily
promoted in recent months by online shops such as TigerDirect. I
bought the mobo bundled with the AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 333 MHz, Barton
Core from TD back in mid-September. It was nothing but trouble, with
frequent lock ups and blue screens. I spent probably 50 hours total
troubleshooting, swapping components, etc., and finally returned the
mobo to Chaintech for a replacement.

The replacement has been running stably, but with a puzzling and
annoying twist - POST reports MEMORY FREQUENCY of 100 MHz, with or
without DDR Enabled, and no matter what I do with BIOS settings or
how or where I install the memory in the three banks.

System info:

7NJL6 with AMD Athlon XP 3000+, 333 MHz FSB, Barton Core
Vantec iON 2 350W PSU
Windows Millenium, fully updated
3 sticks of Ultra DDR PC3200, 400 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS
Chaintech 7.1 Channel PCI 24HT-S Sound Card
Seagate 120 GB EIDE HDD
Floppy
Samsung TSST H552B CD/DVD+/-RW

The really curious thing is, no matter what I do, the system's
performance scores using Symantec System Works 2004's bundled
Performance Tests (www.passmark.com) are the same: 230-240 Pass Mark;
710-730 Megaflops. The CPU runs at the correct, rated speed of 2158
MHz (1.3 x 166), with JP3 jumper at default setting (pins 1,2
jumpered for 133/166/200 MHz). I've found that the one BIOS setting
on this board that have direct, immediate effect on CPU speed is the
Gate A20 Option - it must be left at the default setting of FAST, not
Normal, otherwise the CPU speed drops to 1300 MHz.

I've tweaked and tried virtually every likely BIOS setting to try to
alter this immovable MEMORY FREQENCY of 100 MHz, with no success.
I've tried the Aggressive setting for the CPU INTERFACE options; SPD
vs. AUTO in the MEMORY FREQUENCY settings, and populated the memory
banks with 2 or 3 sticks at alternate positions. All of which produce
no difference in the 100 MHz memory frequency in POST, and negligible
differences in performance scores.

Guy, I too was "chicken" to go any further with "turbo" or "expert"
in selecting CPU Interface options, especially since I found that
with my particular 7NJL6 board, I can not select 200 MHz FSB - I've
tried it twice, and both times the system wouldn't boot at all and I
had to clear the CMOS and start over.

Is it possible that this Chaintech board has a double- or quad- pumped
FSB bus? If so, my system at least is running at 200 MHz minimum? The
Chaintech 7NJL6 User Guide is poorly written, with omissions, and
doesn't mention this item. The Chaintech web site and Tech Service is
not of much help either, although the latter has returned my emails
rather promptly. Its latest advice is for me to reflash the BIOS,
which I am not about to do as the risk/reward ratio is abysmal.

You, and several others on this board are obviously skilled and
knowledgeable with computers. I am hoping you can point to something
I may have missed. I confess to considerable ignorance on the subject
of changing computer speeds and timing - I've never tried overclocking
for that reason, especially since I am not a gamer.

Any advice or comment is extremely welcome and appreciated. Sorry for
a rather long post, but I wanted to be clear about what I want to
say.

 

Apologies to all for the double post - I thought the first one go
stuck

 

Bill,

I just bought a 7NJL6 with the XP 3000, 2 X 512MB Viking, and an eVGA
256 MB AGP card. I put it in a Coolermaster Centurion case today.


I am installing drivers and updates now; however, I encountered the
same problem this morning with the 200 MHz bus. My system is
currently reporting 1300 MHz, and I have cleared the CMOS four times.
I am running a 100MHz bus setting right now.

I am not touching the default settings again until I figure out what
is going on. I am also soliciting comments and advice (especially
from Uddarts). I will also keep you posted via this newsegroup on
anything I find.

I spent several days troubleshooting this system in an old case --
this planned upgrade turned into a new build when I decided to buy
this Coolermaster case. It turns out the system would not boot
because of a bad PS2 mouse. I was really surprised by that, but at
least the system is running now.

Ud, I decided to go with another 7N. It's just going to be an email
server and home office PC for my wife anyway.... The success story is
this new Coolermaster case from CompUSA.

Thanks,

 

Ok, here is an update. I do not yet know what is causing this bizarr
behavior.

First, I have the machine running at 2.167 GHz. I accomplished thi
as follows:

1. I installed the latest drivers from the Chaintech website*.

2. After rebooting, I entered the BIOS and set the CPU freq to 200
(I admit this was a stretch, since my CPU should use 166.) Th
restart failed, so I powered down and pulled the CMOS jumper. I the
powered up, and got an error request telling me the CMOS had changed
(Note: This had not happened before; previously I had set my syste
to Aggressive, but this time I left it at Optimal....

3. I entered BIOS and reset the CPU freq to 166. This time i
successfully rebooted, and told me the CPU had been changed (!) an
asked me to go into CMOS to correct the boot drive order. I ignore
this with an F1 key and the system booted right into Windows with
dramatic speed increase. The system and Belarc Advisor both verif
the speed increase, but Belarc reports 2.15 while the system report
2.16. The correct value should be 2.167, and I assume it is th
actual value being reported, with rounding errors in the utilities.

I will now run the system for 24 hours with Speedfan monitorin
temperature.

*OBTW, I installed all of the same drivers on my other build, a 7NJL
/ 2900 configuration, and it is running fine as well.

I will check in Wednesday

 

Update: My new system - 7NJL6 (BIOS v. 2) with XP 3000 / 333MHz an
512MB x 2 of Viking 8/3/3 memory - is running smoothly under th
optimized defaults.

Thanks for the help