DELL SERVERS CHEAP AND FULL OF PROBLEMS

If you do not have a clue I do not need to know hon many servers you
have.

 

How many times do we have to ASK for more details. Just telling us they
crashed is USELESS

 

Turn off the automatic reboot so you can see what the blue screen is. Tell
us the EXACT details. We can likely fix it.

I'd bet money it is an application you installed.

Tom

 

i don't think anyone could care less about your resume. if you put that
much effort in describing the problem with your server instead of defending
your obviously poor troubleshooting skills then you might actually find
yourself moving closer to a solution. but your ego is in the way. you are
your own worse enemy. next time your use rdp and your server reboots think
about what i have said.

 

you fail to get a answer from dell support for the same reason why you don't
get an answer here. you need to fully describe your problem before anyone
can answer it. saying that it happens 'for no reason' is perhaps the
silliest thing someone that proclaims to be technically trained could say
about any problem.

 

Suggestion:

http://www.westegg.com/unmaintained/carnegie/win-friends.html

Notan

 

That would be my guess. If it's a Dell / Windows 2003 problem Dell
would have heard about it loud and clear by now.

So, it seems like it would be either something to do with that batch
of servers (doubtful), or it'a an application, driver, or anything
similar with your installation. Did you upgrade or install any new
software after you got the servers?

I would try to identify that, and if that's the problem contact the
vendor for a fix.

Also, remember -- Google _is_ your friend. That's the first step I
take to resolving anything.

Journey

 

Look, if you post and someone suggests something, then try those
things before more posting again. You say you are busy. Well, then
be efficient, evaluate the input you received, and try it in a logical
manner.

Since coming here I have received so many suggestions and I have taken
them. Alt recommended freeware. Tom clued me in to the fact that
Media Center Edition is closer to Pro than home, and that I could run
more than one RDC on one computer. People helped me install a hard
disk on my own. I could go on.

The people here know what they are doing. Many are professionals who
are good at whate they do. I recommend taking their input. If you
don't, then people might feel they are wasting your time with you, and
you certainly are wasting your own time.

Journey

 

Did you try any of the suggestions?

Have you posted info. to help people diagnose your problem?

No. You are clueless. You are an idiot.

Irene, I don't agree with you. People who post for help need to do so
respectfully and responsibly, and that includes presenting enough
information for them to get help.

Tom and perhaps others responded very nicely to this gentleman asking
for more detailed info. and none was provided.

If this is how he is, then I would either like to see him accept input
and advice, or I would understand why people would kiilfile him.

For me, if this is how he is, I will probably just watch his continued
posting, if he does continue to post, and see if there is a change
over time based on the feedback and input of others.

I received some feedback about my postings, and although it was hard
to take, I reflected on it for a day and realized that there was a lot
of truth in what the person said. So, I am trying to do better (and
hope I am).

Looking through this entire thread, it is obvious that this poster is
not responsibly taking input and applying it towards resolving his
problem.

If this is causing a production problem for him, then maybe he needs
to learn how to test an install before going into production. ANY
simple test plan for a new server would have discovered that.

When I was a professional programmer / analyst, the reusable test
plans we created were very rigorous, and we almost always found
problems before going into production. I am apalled at some of the
lack of testing I see in many products being produced today.

Some great companies:

- www.mindjet.com - GREAT product for mind-mapping, I have used it
to store massive amounts of information in a structure way which I
could also move in an instant and then print out in Microsoft Word or
other products.

- www.miclog.com - great product for managing large amounts of
information and finding it, encrypting information. I would not be
without it.

- http://www.davidrm.com/thejournal/ - an immensely useful program
in the way you can multiple daily journals, free form topic journals,
you can nest them under each other. I use it for effortlessly taking
and filing notes.

All of these programs have been created in extremely rigourous ways.
Unfortunately like I said there are far more exceptions to this.

So, maybe if the OP would use some professional techniques and have a
more receptive mind, he would be able to identify and resolve his
problem.

Either that or he can wallow in complaining about Dell.

Journey

 

What are the 3 languages. I don't think you should include English in
that list. You need night courses in ESL I think you have an
inferiority complex which is why you need to fluff yourself up like
that.

A person can work in a field for years and still not be a seasoned
professional. You do not act like a seasoned professional, which is
what you imply in your need to stroke your ego based on feeling
inferior.

You don't take input from others.

Why not? Can you simply answer that question in a thorough manner?
That is the root of all the discussion here so I challenge you to
answer that.

What kind of test plan did you have in place for your new servers? It
wasn't quite clear but it seems like you may have been running Windows
2000 on your prior servers.

If that's the case, then you should contact the vendors of your
products and make sure that they work with Windows 2003. You should
do testing of your servers before putting them into production.
Depending on the environment and applications, that could mean having
some users or developers do some testing of their own applications on
your test environment. Require them to respond that they completed
their testing and that everything worked OK. One reason for this is
to make sure you do a thorough job, and the other is very important --
to cover your a** (CYA).

So, other questions (not as important as the one above) ...

- Were you using Win 2000 before?

- When you got the Win 2003 servers, did you test RDC right away
before installing any apps, i.e. a totally "clean" test with the
computers the exact way in which they arrived?

- Have you done the procedures above, making sure your products and
apps work with Win 2003?

- If it did work upon arrival, did you install software and after
each install check RDC?

So, come on, be professional and take it from here. I could go on,
but I'm not the project manager for this install -- you are.

If you want to inflate your ego don't do so by talking to us and then
showing your incompetance.

Do so now by showing your approach to installing the servers and
fixing the problem.

Journey

 

Ah yes, a timeless classic!

 

okay friends i found the problem.
I have windows server 2003 R2 on my servers (Dell Server).
so what I did is install Windows 2003 Standard version on one of my
Dell servers and guess what !It works! so It looks like threre is some
kind of problem with this figure DELL-Win2003R2 what is that I do not
know yet. But I resolv somehow my problem and It works for me. Lest
forget about critics and attacks this info probably will help other
people maybe not but I beleive IT people should work together instead
writting critics.

 

Sorry, but you are no role model or example of providing good
information, and any info. you provided above is buried in a heap of
knowledgeable professionals giving input to your ignorant approach to
resolving problems and effectively using newsgroups.

In short, you are pathetic.

Journey

 

More.... I install Windows Server 2003 R2 in different server different
brand. Same result it reboots itself and the server has only windows
plain no extra software. I am set I leave this issue to Microsoft.
Thanks anyway.

 

Well that's good news.

FWIW, here's a site that gives a simple explanation of what Windows Server
2003 R2 is. It appears that R2 is a slightly newer/updated version of
Server 2003.

It would appear that for some as yet 'unknown reason', 'something'
introduced in the R2 release is not completely compatable with your servers.

At this point if it were me, and the 'features' added in R2 were not
important for what I was going to use my servers for, I'd just remover R2,
install Server 2003 as you did, and move on.

It still doesn't explain Dell's lack of support for your problem. After all
any time a manufacturer has a deal with MS to sell an OEM version of a
product, that manufacturer agrees to provide support for that piece of
software. Thus, Dell 'should' have been the place to go to resolve the
original problem.

 

What part of "turn off automatic reboot, and post the blue screen
data" was unclear?

 

Help others than.

WHAT WAS THE ERROR!

 

Yes, what was the error, what was the resolution. If you want to help
others then create a separate thread with a really good subject
heading that would show up in searches.

Post about the problem, the specifics involved, and the resolution.

If people spend time trying to help you, it is best to give back too.

I'm not going to waste any more of my time with this guy whenever he
posts like this.

Journey

 

I highly suspect that it has nothing to do with the server being a
"Dell". We've used all sorts of Dell, low end, high end, and nothing
faults on any of them.

If you are having problems when you connect, then you've got bigger
issues - like a corrupt installation, a virus, bad Memory, etc...

Please tell us the following:

Dell Server model number
Amount of RAM (and how many sticks)
Drives - what type/qty
RAID Controller type?

Windows 2003 Server? What version (SBS, Standard, and what service
packs)?

What drivers did you use, those in Windows or the ones that are included
in the Drivers CD with the server?

Did you see if there is/was a BIOS Firmware update available?

What antivirus software are you running on the server?

What firewall, if any, are you running on the server?

 

-stupid question but did you check the MS knowledgebase?
-Have you updated your server BIOS and firmware for components?
-Have you updated network,video,chipset,raid drivers, etc (some from
manufacturer instead of dell)?
-Have you fully patched your R2 install?
-Are you using the most recent RDP client?


FYI: RDP works fine for me with R2 through a VMware install of it, as
well as on one of our IBM HS20 blade servers.