Dell sued for "bait and switch" and false promises

Discussion in 'Dell' started by Timothy Daniels, Feb 27, 2005.

  1. Timothy Daniels

    Irene Guest

    I think that the principles of capitalism includes such things as you invest
    more, you profit more, you pay more, you get more, or something like that.
    When the philosophy is you pay more and get less in return with the rest
    going to those who can pay less; I think that is called Socialism.
     
    Irene, Mar 15, 2005
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  2. Timothy Daniels

    Irene Guest

    Then your memory is failing.

     
    Irene, Mar 15, 2005
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  3. Timothy Daniels

    Irene Guest

    A. If you read my post, I didn't say it was part of the "Federal Budget"
    prior to 1980.

    I said LBJ found a way to "raid" it to finance part of his "Great Society"
    and that is true. It appears we are quibbling over the word "raid". Think
    back to the legislation that was passed by LBJ.
     
    Irene, Mar 15, 2005
  4. Timothy Daniels

    Ben Myers Guest

    Can you go a little heavier on the insults? ... Ben Myers
     
    Ben Myers, Mar 15, 2005
  5. Timothy Daniels

    Ben Myers Guest

    Let's see now... You invest more in Enron, Global Crossing, or WorldCom. How
    does it go from there? Using Social Security contributions for ones own
    investments has been portrayed as a sure thing to make more money than one can
    get from today's Social Security payments. Sounds wonderful on paper, but there
    may be a pitfall or two... Ben Myers
     
    Ben Myers, Mar 15, 2005
  6. Timothy Daniels

    Dogface Guest

    No guarantees of anything in life, including the politicians not stealing
    your "trust fund"...

    Proper diversification of investments would be required. And they'd go up
    and down but the overall result would be much better. People wouldn't be
    investing in lottery scratch tickets like the Democrats would have you
    believe.
     
    Dogface, Mar 16, 2005
  7. Timothy Daniels

    Paul Knudsen Guest

    Index funds. Much as Federal employees 401K's are handled now. Check
    last months' "Fortune" at your library for more info.

    The Standard & Poors 500 index has return an average of 10% a year
    since 1929. Slightyly more if you average if just from 1950. That's
    a low enough risk for me.

    I guess they could give nervous nellies like you the option to stay in
    the present system. Don't you believe in America?
    There'd be an effect. A WONDERFUL effect! Just seriously proposing
    this would make stock prices rise by 10%. Once the bill was passed
    and signed, they'd rise another 15%. Imagine the wealth and
    prosperity that would be created. This would of course limit future
    returns at first.

    Naturally the funds would have to be invested gradually, say a fixed
    amount every market day. And not just in stocks but bonds, as well.
    Why would Wall Street do it? The government could do it itself, like
    with the funds I mentioned above. I certainly have no wish to make
    Wall Street rich(er). And anyway, index funds have very low expenses.
     
    Paul Knudsen, Mar 16, 2005
  8. i can't find any articles on the web that speak about this accusation that
    you have made repeatedly about president johnson. please site some if you
    can. thanks.
     
    Christopher Muto, Mar 16, 2005
  9. So are the Wall Street firms going to maintain these accounts pro bono?
    I don't think so and the fees to maintain private accounts in other
    countries have been expensive indeed.
    In spite of your snotty, condescending tone, I'll reply in a civilized
    manner. You're not saying anything here that I'm not already aware of
    and have mentioned in various posts. You seem inclined to ignore the
    issue of safety of principal in SS accounts. You're welcome to assume as
    much risk as you're comfortable with in your IRA, 401k and/or investment
    account. Greater returns bring greater risks, so just how much risk is
    acceptable for SS funds? As I've said before and will say just this one
    time more, SS was designed as a safety net and IMHO a conservative
    approach to investing those funds, i.e., conservation of principal, is
    entirely appropriate.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  10. Excellent point, Chris. The Boy King has no real plan, but Irene is
    certain of what his plan is - people like this are generally put on
    anti-psychotic meds.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  11. Touche, excellent point!
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  12. Irene is giving in - "honey" is a sure tipoff.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  13. The above certainly cements your position as a rightwingnut, Dogturd.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  14. Not to mention the BS - be sure to wear your old shoes.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  15. You've completely, and willfully, IMHO, missed the point of my posts.
    Where did you dredge up the notion of "good enough" for SS, one of this
    week's talking points straight from Rush's anal aperture?
    Yeah, right, babe, and I'm getting 120% overall on my investments.

    This is Usenet, anyone can post anything.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  16. In the Bush economy *no one* is creating jobs (GWB - first president
    since H Hoover to have a net loss of jobs for an entire term), so much
    for the stimulation from the tax cuts.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  17. Typical rightard, she's in step and the rest of the world is out.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  18. Nope, you haven't the foggiest what true socialism is.
     
    Sparky Singer, Mar 16, 2005
  19. the fact that you fail to see anything wrong with *your response* above to
    sparkly is very insightful, as is your decision to further embarrasses with
    these childish comments rather than just stay silent.
     
    Christopher Muto, Mar 16, 2005
  20. nor does she seem to know what capitalism is. irene most definitely sent
    out that comment without much thought despite her dual proclamations of "i
    think."
     
    Christopher Muto, Mar 16, 2005
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