destroyed Arhlon XP1800+ or weak MoBo Kt7A?

Ulrich Clement · Oct 31, 2003

Hi,
I try to get my Palomino 1800+ from ebay to get running on my KT7a with latest Bios A9. Initialially it worked, but with less stability, therefore I switched back to my Athlon 1000 C (FSB133).

Because I thought, the 1800+ was too hot (63ï¿½C was too high), I bought a new cooler for better cooling but no improvement to stabiliy of thew 1800+. --> back to Athlon 1000, temperature went down on old processor, too.

In the nest step, I replaced my powersupply (300W) with a 350W PS, because I did get only 4.6V instead of 5V. Now I have 4.83V with my Athlon 1000, but after my last try with the 1800+, the screen remained black, no sound, no power off initiated by the mobo! No progress with pushing reset button or resetting bios.-->again back to the Athlon 1000.

Did the processor die in the meantime (or beacuse of so many mounting/umounting), or is there something wrong with my MoBo (e.g. bad elcos, voltage regulators)?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help,
Uli

Skid · Oct 31, 2003

Did you clear the cmos or reset the softmenu before trying the 1800+ for the second time? It could be as simple as the bios expecting one cpu and finding another.

Check the KT7A FAQ at http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2 for troubleshooting tips.

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi,
I try to get my Palomino 1800+ from ebay to get running on my KT7a with latest Bios A9. Initialially it worked, but with less stability, therefore I switched back to my Athlon 1000 C (FSB133).

Because I thought, the 1800+ was too hot (63ï¿½C was too high), I bought a new cooler for better cooling but no improvement to stabiliy of thew 1800+. --> back to Athlon 1000, temperature went down on old processor, too.

In the nest step, I replaced my powersupply (300W) with a 350W PS,

because

I did get only 4.6V instead of 5V. Now I have 4.83V with my Athlon 1000, but after my last try with the 1800+, the screen remained black, no sound, no power off initiated by the mobo! No progress with pushing reset button or resetting bios.-->again back to the Athlon 1000.

Did the processor die in the meantime (or beacuse of so many mounting/umounting), or is there something wrong with my MoBo (e.g. bad elcos, voltage regulators)?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help,
Uli

Usenetter · Oct 31, 2003

"Skid" wrote:

Did you clear the cmos or reset the softmenu before trying the 1800+ for the second time? It could be as simple as the bios expecting one cpu and finding another.

Check the KT7A FAQ at http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2 for troubleshooting tips.

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi,
I try to get my Palomino 1800+ from ebay to get running on my KT7a with latest Bios A9.
Initialially it worked, but with less stability, therefore I switched back to my Athlon 1000 C (FSB133).

Because I thought, the 1800+ was too hot (63ï¿½C was too high), I bought a new cooler for better cooling but no improvement to stabiliy of thew 1800+. --> back to Athlon 1000, temperature went down on old processor, too.

In the nest step, I replaced my powersupply (300W) with a 350W PS, because I did get only 4.6V instead of 5V. Now I have 4.83V with my Athlon 1000, but ...

no

power off initiated by the mobo! No progress with pushing reset button or resetting bios.-->again back to the Athlon 1000.

Did the processor die in the meantime (or beacuse of so many
mounting/umounting), or is there something wrong with my MoBo (e.g. bad elcos, voltage regulators)?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help,
Uli

...

Ulrich Clement · Nov 1, 2003

Hi Skid,

that's what I meant with "resetting bios". This had been done by closing the jumper close to the CMOS battery for about 10 seconds. When my Athlon 1000 came up again, I recognized a CMOS error, which caused a reset to BIOS default values. I didn't mention, that I tried the 1800+ after this again, with a black screen again. May be, I have changed the processor from the very first start until now for about 10 times. Therefore this latest "black sceeen" was new to me.

Bye,
Uli

"Skid" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

Did you clear the cmos or reset the softmenu before trying the 1800+ for the second time? It could be as simple as the bios expecting one cpu and finding another.

Check the KT7A FAQ at http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2 for troubleshooting tips.

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi,
I try to get my Palomino 1800+ from ebay to get running on my KT7a with latest Bios A9.
Initialially it worked, but with less stability, therefore I switched back to my Athlon 1000 C (FSB133).

Because I thought, the 1800+ was too hot (63ï¿½C was too high), I bought a new cooler for better cooling but no improvement to stabiliy of thew 1800+. --> back to Athlon 1000, temperature went down on old processor, too.

In the nest step, I replaced my powersupply (300W) with a 350W PS, because I did get only 4.6V instead of 5V. Now I have 4.83V with my Athlon 1000, but ...

no

power off initiated by the mobo! No progress with pushing reset button or resetting bios.-->again back to the Athlon 1000.

Did the processor die in the meantime (or beacuse of so many
mounting/umounting), or is there something wrong with my MoBo (e.g. bad elcos, voltage regulators)?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help,
Uli

...

Skid · Nov 1, 2003

Just to be sure, try unplugging the system from the all and leave the jumper in the reset position for at least two minutes. That way you know the battery is completely drained. Then, one the very first boot, go into the bios and check your softmenu settings.

If it still doesn't work, see if you can test the cpu in another system. You might have a bad one.

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi Skid,

that's what I meant with "resetting bios". This had been done by closing the jumper close to the CMOS battery for about 10 seconds. When my Athlon 1000 came up again, I recognized a CMOS error, which caused a reset to BIOS default values. I didn't mention, that I tried the 1800+ after this again, with a black screen again. May be, I have changed the processor from the very first start until now for about 10 times. Therefore this latest "black sceeen" was new to me.

Bye,
Uli

"Skid" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

Did you clear the cmos or reset the softmenu before trying the 1800+ for the second time? It could be as simple as the bios expecting one cpu and finding another.
... with latest Bios A9.
Initialially it worked, but with less stability, therefore I switched back to my Athlon 1000 C (FSB133).

Because I thought, the 1800+ was too hot (63ï¿½C was too high), I bought a new
cooler for better cooling but no improvement to stabiliy of thew 1800+. -->
back to Athlon 1000, temperature went down on old processor, too.

In the nest step, I replaced my powersupply (300W) with a 350W PS, because
I did get only 4.6V instead of 5V. Now I have 4.83V with my Athlon 1000, but
after my last try with the 1800+, the screen remained black, no sound, no power off initiated by the mobo! No progress with pushing reset button or resetting bios.-->again back to the Athlon 1000.

Did the processor die in the meantime (or beacuse of so many
mounting/umounting), or is there something wrong with my MoBo (e.g. bad elcos, voltage regulators)?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help,
Uli

Ulrich Clement · Nov 1, 2003

Hi Skid,
I've just tried again with your hints- no success, screen remains black an no beep. In the FAQs from sudhian.com I have read: 1.. No beep at all - this means your motherboard is dead, either due to a defective or underpowered power supply, poorly seated CPU or RAM, or a dead-on-arrival board Therefore I think, my 1800+ has died! All legs from my 1800+ are ok, no damage on the die, etc.. By switching back to the Athlon 1000 I got direktly into "soft menu", without the Cmos checksum error from last week. The 1800+ would have had the same chance! The Power Supply itself shows better voltage values as my first one. The only possibility, that some tolerances on my Mobo (e.g. regulators) may have run out of bounds, which prevent the 1800+ to run.

May be, I get the chance to test the 1800+ on another MoBo.

Thanks for your hints,

Uli

"Skid" wrote:

Just to be sure, try unplugging the system from the all and leave the jumper in the reset position for at least two minutes. That way you know the battery is completely drained. Then, one the very first boot, go into the bios and check your softmenu settings.

If it still doesn't work, see if you can test the cpu in another system. You might have a bad one.

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi Skid,

that's what I meant with "resetting bios". This had been done by closing the jumper close to the CMOS battery for about 10 seconds. When my Athlon 1000 came up again, I recognized a CMOS error, which caused a reset to BIOS default values. I didn't mention, that I tried the 1800+ after this again, with a black screen again. May be, I have changed the processor from the very first start until now for about 10 times. Therefore this latest "black sceeen" was new to me.

Bye,
Uli

"Skid" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

Did you clear the cmos or reset the softmenu before trying the 1800+ for the
second time? It could be as simple as the bios expecting one cpu and finding
another.

Check the KT7A FAQ at http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2 for troubleshooting tips.

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi,
I try to get my Palomino 1800+ from ebay to get running on my KT7a ... switched back
to my Athlon 1000 C (FSB133).

Because I thought, the 1800+ was too hot (63ï¿½C was too high), I bought a
new
cooler for better cooling but no improvement to stabiliy of thew 1800+. -->
back to Athlon 1000, temperature went down on old processor, too.

In the nest step, I replaced my powersupply (300W) with a 350W PS, because
I did get only 4.6V instead of 5V. Now I have 4.83V with my Athlon 1000, but
after my last try with the 1800+, the screen remained black, no sound, no
power off initiated by the mobo! No progress with pushing reset button or
resetting bios.-->again back to the Athlon 1000.

Did the processor die in the meantime (or beacuse of so many
mounting/umounting), or is there something wrong with my MoBo (e.g. bad elcos, voltage regulators)?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help,
Uli
...

Skid · Nov 2, 2003

"Ulrich Clement" wrote:

Hi Skid,
I've just tried again with your hints- no success, screen remains black an no beep. In the FAQs from sudhian.com I have read:
1.. No beep at all - this means your motherboard is dead, either due to a defective or underpowered power supply, poorly seated CPU or RAM, or a dead-on-arrival board Therefore I think, my 1800+ has died! All legs from my 1800+ are ok, no damage on the die, etc.. By switching back to the Athlon 1000 I got direktly into "soft menu", without the Cmos checksum error from last week. The 1800+ would have had the same chance! The Power Supply itself shows better voltage values as my first one. The only possibility, that some tolerances on my Mobo (e.g. regulators) may have run out of bounds, which prevent the 1800+ to run.

May be, I get the chance to test the 1800+ on another MoBo.

Thanks for your hints,

You're welcome. Sorry I don't have a magic cure. Good luck with it.