Dimension 4100 -- Can't Boot from CD

Discussion in 'Dell' started by Ryan, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. Ryan

    Ryan Guest

    I'm trying to upgrade a Dimension 4100 (P3 866, 20 GB, 256 MB) to
    Windows 2000 from ME. For some reason I can't get the system to boot
    from the Installation CD. It's not the CD (used it to install on a
    different machine) or the CD-ROM drive (swapped in a known good one).
    I upgraded the BIOS to A11 to be sure, with no luck, and yes, I have
    ATAPI CD-ROM set as the 1st boot device in Setup. Has anyone seen
    this in the Dimension? Is there a Mobo jumper I need to set or

    Thanks in advance,

    Ryan, Jul 19, 2004
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    WSZsr Guest

    Is the CD-ROM drive jumpered for master?
    WSZsr, Jul 19, 2004
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    Jcmcdonald Guest

    Coincidentally I had to replace the HD of a P3 1Ghz Dimension 4100 yesterday.
    After installing the physical replacement HD, I entered Setup, changed the CD
    (more precisely the DVD) drive to second in boot order. I really only moved it
    ahead of the hard-drive, but let the Floppy stay as one. I never looked at
    jumpers, or the master/slave selection, so perhaps I was just lucky, but my PC
    booted from the Dell supplied Windows XP Upgrade CD no problem.

    FWIW, this situation was discussed in a different thread, and there were
    conflicting opinions on whether I would need to present the original WindowsMe
    CD to the install process. I did.

    You should certainly be able to boot from an install CD.
    Jcmcdonald, Jul 20, 2004
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    Tom Scales Guest

    Hope not. Shouldn't it be Cable Select?
    Tom Scales, Jul 20, 2004
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    Carlshead Guest

    Hi Ryan,
    One thing I ran into recently might help. On some machines when the bios is
    set to CDROM as first boot device, on start up a prompt shows up with "press
    any key to boot from CDROM" but there is a few second time limit before it
    continues to the next boot device (hard drive, floppy, etc). I had a
    monitor that would not "wake up" fast enough to even see the message.

    Carlshead, Jul 20, 2004
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    WSZsr Guest

    master position (last connector) on the cable is what I meant. sorry to
    been confusing.
    WSZsr, Jul 20, 2004
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    Ryan Guest

    I got the system to boot from a Win98 Installation CD. There must be
    a problem with the older CD-ROM and newer Win2000 Media. Either way,
    I got it installed via 98-->upgrade to 2000.

    Thanks for the replies,

    Ryan, Jul 20, 2004
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    Paul Knudsen Guest

    Never heard of that. I can boot 2K on a five-year old Optiplex.
    Maybe the CD itself is bad?
    Paul Knudsen, Jul 20, 2004
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    Dave Guest

    I've got a very similar problem on my 4100 as well. Cannot boot from a
    Pioneer DVD writer. Recently added a Promise SATA card and drive to my
    system. During the startup the SATA posts then the CD drive shows active a
    few seconds. Then the SATA posts again and the system restarts. Keeps doing
    this cycle until I remove the CD from the drive. All BIOSs are current rev.
    Dave, Jul 20, 2004
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    Ben Myers Guest

    Very few BIOSes are designed to work with SATA cards, and most of the Intel-made
    P3 boards (as used by Dell, even with Dell BIOS) are unlikely to boot from even
    a Promise ATA100/66 card... Ben Myers
    Ben Myers, Jul 21, 2004
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    S.Lewis Guest



    Are you speaking of optical drives w/regard to booting from the ATA cards?
    With regard to hard disks, Dell used to routinely sell XPS T and B models
    that used Promise ATA 100 cards from their factory - as they did with some
    SATA RAID cards in the Dim 8300. ?

    S.Lewis, Jul 21, 2004
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    Dave Guest

    The 4100 has no trouble booting from the SATA card, the BIOS boot selection
    is 'Option ROM'.
    Dave, Jul 21, 2004
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    Ben Myers Guest

    Thanks for the clarification. My bad. Haven't touched a 4100 in some time...
    Ben Myers, Jul 21, 2004
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