ECS NFORCE4-A939 - any good?

Discussion in 'Asus' started by Rob Nicholson, Mar 12, 2005.

  1. I'm considering upgrading my PC to an AMD64 with PCI-E based system. Support
    for PCI-E and AMD64 only really arrived just before Christmas so it's still
    early days.

    I've been watching the topics in alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus about the
    new Asus A8N-SLi motherboard which looks like a great board for about £95
    here in the UK. However, after been burnt (tee hee, a joke) with buying a
    useless AOpen DVD burner recently before checking the reviews, I've been
    interested in the problems people have been having. There have been quite a
    few BIOS upgrades and problems reported over there which has made me hang on
    for a while. Lots of BIOS upgrades can be taken one of both ways - the
    manufacturer is keen to support and resolve issues or they didn't test it
    enough :)

    Anyway, I happened to wander over to www.pcnextday.co.uk to check prices and
    came across the ECS NFORCE4-A939 motherboard. What caught my eye was the
    price tag of £66 which is a lot cheaper.

    The ECS web site has the following post:

    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/NewsRoom/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=185&MENUID=14&LanID=0

    And there's a link to the Computer Shopper article - short but sweet.

    I've never come across ECS before - anyone got anything to say about them
    and in particular this board?

    Thanks, Rob.
     
    Rob Nicholson, Mar 12, 2005
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  2. Anyway, I happened to wander over to www.pcnextday.co.uk to check prices
    PS. I know this this the Asus website but I thought readers who have been
    looking at the A8N might have also thought about the new ECS board.

    Cheers, Rob.
     
    Rob Nicholson, Mar 12, 2005
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  3. Rob Nicholson

    Brad Clarke Guest

    In my mind, ECS stands for Extremely Cheap Stuff :)

    I know two people whose ECS boards just up and died for no apparent
    reason. Those boards were replaced with Asus boards.
     
    Brad Clarke, Mar 12, 2005
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  4. In my mind, ECS stands for Extremely Cheap Stuff :)

    I can understand that especially when the motherboards are so much cheaper
    :) But although I'd never heard of ECS, they're not exactly a small outfit.
    Quote "ECS is one of the world's largest motherboard manufacturers":

    http://www.crn.vnunet.com/news/1158378
    Equally, I've also had Gigabyte boards blow up as well. But hear what you're
    saying...

    Cheers, Rob.
     
    Rob Nicholson, Mar 12, 2005
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  5. Rob Nicholson

    SteveH Guest

    Had nothing but trouble with ECS - Never agin!

    SteveH
     
    SteveH, Mar 12, 2005
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  6. I know two people whose ECS boards just up and died for no apparent
    The same goes for Matsonic.

    A friend had one of those in an el-cheapo 'Novatech Motherboard and
    XP2500+' bundle. It caused him no end of troubles (instability, random
    crashes, etc.). I told him to get an A7N8X-E and all the problems just
    vanished (with a bit of a performance and sound quality boost into the
    bargain).
     
    BananaOfTheNight, Mar 12, 2005
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  7. Rob Nicholson

    Ed Guest

    I have one ECS I bought in summer of 2000, it still works fine (stable)
    but has some weirdness to it, like AGP 4X will only run @ 2X, changing
    ram timings doesn't do anything, making a backup image under Ghost 2003
    (DOS) is super slow (80MB/Min.), so all in all it works but doesn't
    perform very well. I doubt I ever buy an ECS again, my favorite boards
    are still Asus and MSI.

    Good Luck,
    Ed
     
    Ed, Mar 12, 2005
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  8. Rob Nicholson

    Hellraiser Guest

    ECS are the company behind PC Chips, they specialise in low budget
    motherboards - used a few in the past, they're OK but nothing to write home
    about. I'm in a similar position to yourself, and am currently leaning
    towards either the A8N SLi Deluxe or the MSI equivalent. I wouldn't use
    something cheap like an ECS in a machine for myself, I'd only use one if I
    had to build down to a budget.

    Hellraiser.........>
     
    Hellraiser, Mar 12, 2005
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  9. ram timings doesn't do anything, making a backup image under Ghost 2003
    Is that across the network or to another local hard disk? We usually expect
    around 100MB/Min across 100MBit network so 80MB/Min doesn't sound too bad.

    Cheers, Rob.
     
    Rob Nicholson, Mar 12, 2005
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  10. hint: "ghost.exe /ide:yes"
     
    Mike Tomlinson, Mar 12, 2005
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  11. I have their pt800ce-a and just got a ati x800xt agp and it does not work in
    it and I just got off the phone with a person that use to work for ecs in
    teck support and he said that the problem is more then likely due to that
    fact that they use cheap parts.but I have an asus p4c800 deluxe to change it
    with.find out tomorrow.you get what you pay for.
     
    Andre LaFramboise, Mar 12, 2005
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  12. Agreed. We're using Asus A8Vs in machines at work and they are very
    good boards. If you're going to get a good CPU, it's worth using decent
    hardware with it IMO.
     
    Mike Tomlinson, Mar 13, 2005
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  13. Rob Nicholson

    Hellraiser Guest

    Agreed. We're using Asus A8Vs in machines at work and they are very
    Bloody hell, people agreeing with me rather than flaming me - can't let this
    continue, or my reputation may suffer :)

    Hellraiser..........>
     
    Hellraiser, Mar 13, 2005
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  14. Rob Nicholson

    zzipper Guest

    virtually no quality control and no dealer or customer support for RMA. I
    know a dealer who threw out 50 boards in a year because ECS refused to
    exchange or repair them. Of course, he doesn't sell any ECS products
    anymore, I wonder why? Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, people who will actually create
    BISO updates that work and replace or repair a defective board, I'd stick to
    them. There are non-SLI NForce 4 Ultra boards coming from these companies,
    wait for them. You'll likely regret it if you don't.
     
    zzipper, Mar 13, 2005
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  15. Rob Nicholson

    Ed Guest

    No network. The drive was fast under Windows just really slow in DOS, on
    a Soyo board w/same VIA chipsets it was around 350MB/Min.
    Ed
     
    Ed, Mar 13, 2005
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  16. Bloody hell, people agreeing with me rather than flaming me - can't let
    this
    Okay, okay - I'll avoid ECS :)

    Cheers, Rob.
     
    Rob Nicholson, Mar 14, 2005
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