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Help: Windows XP Spontanous shutdown

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by m3nn0_s4r, Jun 4, 2004.

  1. m3nn0_s4r

    m3nn0_s4r Guest

    My PC has been experiencing spontaneous shutdowns for a month now, with
    increasing frequency. I'm not sure if it's hardware or OS related.

    I swapped in a spare ower supply, but that didn't make a difference.

    I don't think it's a capticity issue on the PS, as it's a 430W powering 2
    disk, 2 cdrom, and 8 USB devices, as well as 3 120mm and 2 80mm fans.
    Should be suffificient. PS has dual internal fans.

    I thought it might be heat, so I got a hardware monitor to let me know if
    temps rose above their average (MB=30, CPU=57). I set tight thresholds of 33
    and 60, so I would know if there was any increase in temp previous to a
    powerdown, but no dice. Subsequent shutdowns have not been preceded by any
    warning of temperature increase.

    What's significant is HOW the power goes down. It isn't entirely
    spontaneous, but is preceded by a 2 second freeze, in which there is video
    on my monitor, but the computer is unresponsive. 2 seconds, later, it
    powers down.

    Thoughts?


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    m3nn0_s4r, Jun 4, 2004
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  2. Got any ATI products in there?
    Are the 8 USB devices pulling off a powered hub?
     
    An Unexploded Scotsman, Jun 4, 2004
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  3. m3nn0_s4r

    Eat Dirt Guest

    You don't wanna hear my thoughts on this. Therefore I shall refer you to
    my sig and say no more.
     
    Eat Dirt, Jun 4, 2004
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  4. m3nn0_s4r

    CalgaryGuy Guest

    Check your CPU fan, if it is overheating it will shut itself down.
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    CalgaryGuy, Jun 4, 2004
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  5. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=apple+class+action+lawsuit

    No product is without problems, no matter how stylish. *g*
    I've considered buying a powerbook a couple of times, but am holding
    off on buying another laptop (sold my thinkpad to pay for the a
    monster desktop to play with video editing and games).

    What the laptop industry needs, is to standardize GPU and CPU
    upgrades. Though it looks they're finally working towards that.
     
    An Unexploded Scotsman, Jun 4, 2004
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  6. 57C is hardly overheating. Assuming he's funning a P4.

    How about some detailed system specs, Dan?
     
    An Unexploded Scotsman, Jun 4, 2004
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  7. m3nn0_s4r

    M Guest

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    I would strip it down to the essentials; mb/cpu,
    vid card, ram, keyboard. Boot into
    XP while keeping the temp constant
    and see what happens. Try holding
    the machine at the BIOS promt and
    see if she crashes?
    Are you using any "no-name" RAM?

    M
     
    M, Jun 4, 2004
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  8. m3nn0_s4r

    Dan Overes Guest

    Kind of quick to jump on ole' Billy Gates considering the problem hasn't
    even been diagnosed to be hardware or software yet. Never let your
    prejudice blind you to other possibilities.
     
    Dan Overes, Jun 4, 2004
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  9. Yes, an ATI radeon all in wonder pro.
    Several difference Hubs. A few on MB, a few on a hub pay off of a 12v from
    the PS, and 1 PCI card.

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    c4rp3t_munch3r, Jun 4, 2004
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  10. Amd Barton 2600, 750 MB ram... Ati radeon 9600 AIW pro... 2 Maxtor 120's.
    Asus Motherboard (A7x something - Very common AMD MB).


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    c4rp3t_munch3r, Jun 4, 2004
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  11. All corsair.




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    c4rp3t_munch3r, Jun 4, 2004
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  12. All corsair.[/QUOTE]

    Don't suppose you have "agp fast-write" (or something like that..can't
    check via terminal server as it's grayed out) checked under ATI's
    crazy control panel? That caused me some serious system stability
    issues and no performance increase.
     
    An Unexploded Scotsman, Jun 4, 2004
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  13. m3nn0_s4r

    MisNomer Guest

    You may want to check your "task manager - processes " using this site

    http://www.answersthatwork.com/home_page.htm

    It will give a list of all the files that could be running on your system, and
    weather you need them to run, or if there is a virus in your computer.

    take care
    Liz
    I am surprised that you put this out here as you seem to be fairly knowledgeable
    yourself.
     
    MisNomer, Jun 4, 2004
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  14. m3nn0_s4r

    veranda Guest

    Video card . The same happened to me with an ATI all-in-one-wonder until I
    updated the driver .
    Good luck .
     
    veranda, Jun 5, 2004
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  15. Actually he said absolutely nothing about Bill Gates. He may well have
    been referring to hardware also, in which case the Mac still holds the
    advantage as a better quality of machine than the average future shop
    off-the-counter POS.
     
    Black Jacque Shellacque, Jun 5, 2004
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  16. No agrement there, but for the price premium it sure as hell should.
    From a design standpoint, no question. They make some very nice stuff.
    And I'll be the first to admit OS X is pretty sweet, but if you're big
    into games, need access to the widest range of software or looking for
    the most computing power for your dollar, I'm not so sure they stack
    up. That being said, I'd happily take one of each.
     
    An Unexploded Scotsman, Jun 5, 2004
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  17. if that's the case, download from http://www.ati.com
     
    catchmerevisited, Jun 5, 2004
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  18. m3nn0_s4r

    p1mp_ju1c3 Guest

    Is that where I get ati drivers from?

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    p1mp_ju1c3, Jun 5, 2004
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  19. m3nn0_s4r

    p1mp_ju1c3 Guest

    I unchecked it yesterday, and have enjoyed 24 crash-free hours.

    I had a suspicion it was video-card related... Will post again in a few
    days to update.




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    p1mp_ju1c3, Jun 5, 2004
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  20. m3nn0_s4r

    p1mp_ju1c3 Guest

    Updating my ATI driver(s) is about the last thing I want to do.... I've got
    a dual VGA-out w/tv, and it takes a lot of mussing and fussing to get it all
    to work together. Something I'd rather avoid if possible...



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    p1mp_ju1c3, Jun 5, 2004
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