Helpful purchase advice needed on a PC build project

Discussion in 'Gigabyte' started by Davek, Aug 15, 2003.

  1. Davek

    Davek Guest

    I'm retiring in a few days and my wife & children are
    encouraging me build my dream computer as a retirement gift.

    For months now I've read reviews and also been a part of
    these news groups (and posted a number of questions that
    you've all been very kind to patiently answer). Right now
    I'm getting ready to finally order the components to build
    the "Dream Machine" and try to get the
    most-bang-for-the-buck. Would you mind looking over the
    components and let me know if you have any suggestions or
    comments on the items? It would be especially helpful to
    know if you've had problems with any of these components.
    This will be my home computer that's used for work and play.
    I use my computer for programming, web application
    development, gaming, DVD & music, school homework (I attend
    the local college as an applied computer science major). TIA.

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP, Intel 875P
    Case: (I built my own case from scratch)
    Monitor: Samsung LCD 191T (Black) 19" LCD Retail
    Processor: Pentium 4 / 2.4CGHz 512k 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL
    HSF: Zalman CNPS7000-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler
    Video: SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB Non Pro DVI/TV 8X
    Sound: VOYETRA TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ - OEM

    RAM: CORSAIR XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack)
    1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver
    Heat Spreaders. Retail

    HDD's: 2 - Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB
    Hard Drive OEM

    FDD: (forgive me, I'm an "old geezer" who still likes having
    a floppy drive :)
    SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM

    Power Supply: Antec 480W Power Supply TRUE480

    DVD burner: Plextor DVD+R/RW IDE Drive Model PX-504A-SW Retail

    CDRW: PLEXTOR Black PX-W4824TA/SW-BL/ 48x24x48 CD-RW - RETAIL

    Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System

    Laser Printer: Samsung ML-1710 Laser Printer
    Photo Printer: Canon i850 Bubble Jet Photo Printer - RETAIL
    Scanner: Canon CanoScan 5000F USB Flatbed Scanner - RETAIL
    Camera: CANON PowerShot S400 4.0MP Digital Camera Retail

    Memory card reader: USB-2 FLASH 6-1 RDR IWILL Model CR620
    Retail 6-in-1 Memory Card Reader/Writer

    Compact flash card: Dane-Elec 256MB COMPACT FLASH
    COMPACTFLASH MEMORY CARD TYPE I - RETAIL

    UPS: Belkin 1200VA UPS

    Router: Linksys BEFSX41 Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL
    Firewall Router with 4-Port Switch/VPN - RETAIL

    TIA
    - Dave Kistner
     
    Davek, Aug 15, 2003
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  2. Davek

    JAD Guest

    most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt) the
    AMD'rs will pounce....its like their slogan ;^)

    Case: (I built my own case from scratch) well thats a new one....PSU is
    new?
    NM seen the listing for the PSU....cool

    Not a fan of gigabyte, but there are far worse boards out there, I take it
    there was something included with this board that made you go for it.

    No need for any superman coolers for it , the stock one is more than
    adequate.


    Speakers: Monsoon MM-2000 5 PC Flat Panel Speaker System, these are great
    ...if you can still find them, I did find a couple of listings while trying
    to find the web page for monsoon for someone...it looks like they have
    dropped the computer line of speakers and gone all automobile.

    What operating system will you be using? 1 gig of ram will need some
    registry/tweaking before it will be used properly.

    Much you will not be able to do without ANY type of floppy, so geezer it up,
    still need those bad boys...regardless of the age of the tech.


    ehhhh just my two sense, I normally let the crazy modders answer these
    posts, just to see what crazy road they will try and take you down.
     
    JAD, Aug 15, 2003
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  3. Davek

    Fitz Guest

    Sony makes a DVD+/-RW, and a couple other companies are supposed to be on
    the verge of releasing there own. I would consider one that will handle both
    formats.

    Take a look at the Cyberpower UPS- great unit, excellent customer support.
    I've been running mine for about 6 months with no problems.

    Fitz
     
    Fitz, Aug 15, 2003
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  4. Davek

    Larc Guest

    | Sony makes a DVD+/-RW, and a couple other companies are supposed to be on
    | the verge of releasing there own. I would consider one that will handle both
    | formats.

    LiteOn has one out now, model LDW-400D. It's about $240 including shipping from
    Newegg. I haven't seen it yet, but it should be great if it's anything like
    their CD-RWs.

    Larc



    §§§ - Please raise temperature of mail to reply by e-mail - §§§
     
    Larc, Aug 15, 2003
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  5. Davek

    Tim Guest

    Dave,

    0. 8KNXP is reliable, at this point the bios needs fixes, but works well
    within its limitations:
    Gigaraid (ITE) raid is slow,
    Has trouble detecting SATA boot devices.
    Cant boot off SATA if an IDE disc is in Primary IDE.

    1. The pure copper zalman exceeds Intel's weight recommendation and offers
    only marginally better cooling than the AL-CU hybrid. The AL-CU hybrid is at
    Intels weight limit (according to the zalman site). Either way both are
    excellent.

    2. Go for a +- DVD burner.

    3. Rounded Floppy cable.

    4. Backup? On DVD?

    5. OS? If you are going to install XP, make sure you put SP 1 in straight
    away (for USB2 & patches).

    6. Memory: PC3200, you will not get any over clocking out of it.

    7. 2.4GHz CPU - shop around, the price difference between this and the 2.8
    is marginal. 16% performance increase is worth the effort.

    Considered a dual? They *are* a dream.

    - Tim
     
    Tim, Aug 16, 2003
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  6. Davek

    Sir Pudgie Guest

    most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt) the
    Simple fact of the matter is, that at this point in time, it's true! ;-)
     
    Sir Pudgie, Aug 16, 2003
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  7. Davek

    Frank Guest

    | > most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt)
    the
    | > AMD'rs will pounce....its like their slogan ;^)
    |
    | Simple fact of the matter is, that at this point in time, it's true!
    ;-)

    If it is true, I can't see it. Need too much extra cooling etc.
     
    Frank, Aug 16, 2003
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  8. Davek

    Sir Pudgie Guest

    | > most-bang-for-the-buck whenever you say this here, (pc-homebuilt)
    Simple math m8, here in Oz, and these prices are boxed CPUs, with *perfectly
    adequate* stock cooling, taken from a single reputable supplier:

    Celeron 2.2Ghz AUD$137
    AthlonXP 2200+ AUD$143

    Now, be objective about this, which of the above do you think would be the
    better performer? ;-)

    Then again, if you want the lowest spec'd P4, the 2.4Ghz, you'll have to
    shell out AUD$331 at the same place. Now, do you honestly think the P4's
    performance will be more than twice that of the Athlon, or the Celeron for
    that matter, commensurate with it's price??? :)

    Look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Intel processors, or that
    they don't have the higher-end performance market licked, but it's an
    undeniable fact that for entry-level, bang-for-buck stuff the ball's still
    in AMD's court! Do the math! ;-)
     
    Sir Pudgie, Aug 16, 2003
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  9. Davek

    JAD Guest

    Simple math m8, here in Oz, and these prices are boxed CPUs, with *perfectly
    adequate* stock cooling, taken from a single reputable supplier:

    Celeron 2.2Ghz AUD$137
    AthlonXP 2200+ AUD$143


    told ya
     
    JAD, Aug 16, 2003
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  10. Davek

    SteveH Guest

    The 2.4C that the o/p is talking about *does* have hyperthreading. And
    considering how easily it overclocks (if the o/p wanted to) it seems to
    represent really good value.

    SteveH
     
    SteveH, Aug 16, 2003
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  11. Davek

    WooduCoodu Guest

    unless you're planning on using ECC ram the 875P boards are a waste of money
    as, depending on the manufacture, they offer nothing over the 865PE boards.
    take a look at the Albatron PX865PE Pro II. with the money you save you'll
    be able to get a faster processor.

    i don't know about the SATA drives but the ATA WD JB drives are about the
    loudest ones out there. if noise is a concern you may want to stop by
    www.silentpcreview.com and have a look around.

    you could get a 4x NEC 1300A DVD+/- RW drive for less than the plextor,
    about $140, it's arguably the best DVD writer available right now.

    also the lite-on CDRW drives are pretty much the drives of choice. in some
    ways they're even better than plextor for significantly less money.

    i would certainly choose an APC UPS over a Belkin.
     
    WooduCoodu, Aug 16, 2003
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  12. Davek

    Sir Pudgie Guest

    Simple math m8, here in Oz, and these prices are boxed CPUs, with
    *perfectly
    No point being parochial when money's involved IMHO, best value for money
    gets me everytime! The moment that's a P4 with HT you'll see one in my
    system pronto! ;-)
     
    Sir Pudgie, Aug 17, 2003
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