info on ICS / IS7 design flaw

[Giles Harney]

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12382

Although ABIT has not made any official acknowledgements they are accepting RMA's of the IC7 / IS7 for the problems mentioned in the above thread.

 

[Rick (archive)]

"Giles Harney" wrote:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12382

Although ABIT has not made any official acknowledgements they are accepting RMA's of the IC7 / IS7 for the problems mentioned in the above thread.

IMO the ugliest thing in that thread was the revelation that Abit spends only 35-40 hours qualifying new boards. They should have caught these audio problems straight away.

RickW

 

[ndrew]

"Giles Harney" wrote:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12382

Although ABIT has not made any official acknowledgements they are

accepting

RMA's of the IC7 / IS7 for the problems mentioned in the above thread.

Thanks for that .. no good for me in Australia .. no Abit office to RMA here to o( regards @ndrew

 

[Rick (archive)]

According to the thread Abit said they're probably going to handle the issue on a case-by-case/RMA basis, until the next hardware revision. They said fixed boards are due to enter the distributor channels within a month.

RickW

"R. A. Pazderski" wrote:

Just built an IC7 and the sound appears to be OK with (NO) pops, hiss or other noticeable distortion although I haven't tried the mike out yet. Is there some way to identify boards that may have the sound problem fixed ??? O/S is Win2k-SP4.

Regards,

Rick P.
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"Giles Harney" wrote:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12382 ...

 

[R. A. Pazderski]

Just built an IC7 and the sound appears to be OK with (NO) pops, hiss or other noticeable distortion although I haven't tried the mike out yet. Is there some way to identify boards that may have the sound problem fixed ??? O/S is Win2k-SP4.

Regards,

Rick P.
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"Giles Harney" wrote:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12382

Although ABIT has not made any official acknowledgements they are accepting RMA's of the IC7 / IS7 for the problems mentioned in the above thread.

 

[R. A. Pazderski]

RickW

When you say (case by case basis), do you mean SOME boards are BAD and others may be OK ??

I realize the IC7 will (not) work out of the box for most, BUT once one gets the Bios setup properly, it is very fast and stable. With a 2.8, I can easily hit 3.3 with a 1:1 ratio using XMS3700 memory at factory timings.

So what are customers to do?? RMA (NEW) boards now and get on a replacement list or wait until an official Abit announcement which may be outside a vendor's return policy period ??

I have built only Asus since the early 90s, so it makes me extremely mad that I may have a bad board the first time I build an Abit product !! The IC7 feature set is all I want / need as I use Wi-Fi to network.

Regards,

Rick P.
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"Rick" wrote:

According to the thread Abit said they're probably going to handle the issue on a case-by-case/RMA basis, until the next hardware revision. They said fixed boards are due to enter the distributor channels within a month.

RickW

"R. A. Pazderski" wrote:

Just built an IC7 and the sound appears to be OK with (NO) pops, hiss or other noticeable distortion although I haven't tried the mike out yet. Is there some way to identify boards that may have the sound problem fixed

???

O/S is Win2k-SP4.

Regards,

Rick P.
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"Giles Harney" wrote:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12382

Although ABIT has not made any official acknowledgements they are

accepting

RMA's of the IC7 / IS7 for the problems mentioned in the above thread.

 

[Rick (archive)]

"R. A. Pazderski" wrote:

RickW

When you say (case by case basis), do you mean SOME boards are BAD and others may be OK ??

No. According to the thread, all IC7/G/IS7 boards have the problem. Apparently the original design specs were fine, the problem surfaced when Abit did "component reductions" prior to releasing the boards to manufacture. Several components were removed and values were changed on others. Yet another example of bean counters getting the upper hand at Abit.

I realize the IC7 will (not) work out of the box for most, BUT once one gets the Bios setup properly, it is very fast and stable. With a 2.8, I can easily hit 3.3 with a 1:1 ratio using XMS3700 memory at factory timings.

The issue has nothing to do with speed.

So what are customers to do?? RMA (NEW) boards now and get on a replacement list or wait until an official Abit announcement which may be outside a vendor's return policy period ??

If the boards are within your retailer's return period you can return them and wait for the fixed version, or RMA them back to Abit.

I have built only Asus since the early 90s, so it makes me extremely mad that I may have a bad board the first time I build an Abit product !! The IC7 feature set is all I want / need as I use Wi-Fi to network.

Mistakes happen.

RickW

 

[R. Pazderski]

RickW,

I appreciate the info and should have done more research before purchasing the board. Called NewEgg and explained the situation. They gave me an RMA number for (FULL) Credit over the phone and told me to return the IC7. They also indicated that when they receive the (NEW) Revision of the IC7, it will be posted as such on their site.

Glad you guys posted the thread. Normally I do better research but just got lazy this time.

Best Regards,

Rick P.
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"Rick" wrote:

"R. A. Pazderski" wrote:

RickW

When you say (case by case basis), do you mean SOME boards are BAD and others may be OK ??

No. According to the thread, all IC7/G/IS7 boards have the problem. Apparently the original design specs were fine, the problem surfaced when Abit did "component reductions" prior to releasing the boards to manufacture. Several components were removed and values were changed on others. Yet another example of bean counters getting the upper hand at Abit.

I realize the IC7 will (not) work out of the box for most, BUT once one gets the Bios setup properly, it is very fast and stable. With a 2.8, I can easily hit 3.3 with a 1:1 ratio using XMS3700 memory at factory timings.

The issue has nothing to do with speed.

So what are customers to do?? RMA (NEW) boards now and get on a replacement list or wait until an official Abit announcement which may be outside a vendor's return policy period ??

If the boards are within your retailer's return period you can return them and wait for the fixed version, or RMA them back to Abit.

I have built only Asus since the early 90s, so it makes me extremely mad that I may have a bad board the first time I build an Abit product !! The IC7 feature set is all I want / need as I use Wi-Fi to network.

Mistakes happen.

RickW