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InfoWorld: Global Standards Are Key, Intel CEO Tells Chinese Execs

Discussion in 'Intel' started by Dionaea muscipula, Apr 8, 2004.

  1. Sumner Lemon of IDG News Service contributed the report on Intel CEO
    Craig Barrett's speech in Shenyang, China, which stresses the
    importance of international standards in developing new IT products.

    "The fastest way to move into the rapidly growing digital economy is
    to adopt standards, which will enable government and businesses to
    maximize their investments and obtain industry-leading performance at
    lower cost and with greater choice," said Craig. Craig was addressing
    some Chinese government officials and business executives.

    Currently there is a trade dispute between the U.S. and China over the
    implementation of a Chinese wireless local area network (WLAN)
    standard. China requires all WLAN equipments sold in the country to
    conform to the local standard after June 1, and foreign companies must
    license WAPI through coproduction agreements with one of around 20
    Chinese companies.

    According to this report, which can be read in
    Intel is not the only WLAN chipset maker which declines to support
    China WAPI. Texas Instrument Inc. does not have plans to support it
    Dionaea muscipula, Apr 8, 2004
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  2. Dionaea muscipula

    charles liu Guest

    First of all, he didn't say global standard here. Second of all does
    corporation's desire for growth and profit trump a nation's
    sovereignty? Specifically is China in the right to regulate China's
    bandwidth within her own sovereign territory however she sees fit?
    Celleular phone is a fitting example here. I know of at least 3
    cellular standards in US, and 5+ all around the world. Yet people can
    make world phone (Nokia, Motorola for example) that works with them.

    If one wishes to argue this way, why not demand the world to drop
    their languages and adopt English? How about demand 99% of the world
    to abandon the metric system and everyone standardize on english
    WAPI is but another standard to the currently *already* fragmented
    WiFi market full of "standards". In addition to WEP, there's WPA
    supposedly better, and there are other security protocols you can
    choose to use if they make you feel any safer, like LEAP CKIP WAS

    Yup, you guessed it, Centrino provides legacy support for them all.
    Legacy support is an essential part of product development. Will Intel
    threaten to not support new standards when current 11b wireless
    standard become obsolete? (Not that it isn't already.)

    Another example I can give you is Centrino's legacy support for this
    obsolete oddball wireless standard (11a on a different frequency) it
    pushed but no one adopted... Gee, sounds familiar?
    Are Intel and TI the only two WLAN chipset maker in the world?
    charles liu, Apr 9, 2004
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  3. Dionaea muscipula

    Guru Google Guest

    (charles liu) wrote in message
    sci.crypt added as some people discussed China's WAPI there. Since
    Charles Liu recycled his useless argument here again, lemme recycle
    mine and add some.....
    And he didn't say Chinese, Euro or American standard here.
    You bark up the wrong tree again. Intel didn't force China to accept
    something by Intel. Intel simply says, you wanna your own standard?
    fine with me. I just don't wanna support that standard.

    China remains a sovereign country by using whatever WAPI standards she
    likes. Intel, Broadcom and TI remain private own companies to make
    business decisions to stay away from Chinese market with unfair rules.
    Simple. Intel, Broadcom and Texas Instruments are not Chinese
    Comunist party state-owned enterprise (SOE) so they do whatever CCP
    wanna them to do.

    And you again raise cellular phone example here, and I told you that
    all the existing cell standards are open to the public. You get the
    spec for free or you pay some money, then you design your own hw to
    fit the standard. You don't need to share your intellectual property
    with your competitor.

    Now China's WAPI standard forces foreign companies, if they wanna sell
    WLAN products, to work with their Chinese competitors cuz the chinese
    communist party classify this WAPI standard as a state secret and
    foreign companies can only implement that by working with the Chinese
    competitors. That's unfair practice, or protectionism if you like that

    So what's next? Cars sold into China are "state secret" and gotta
    follow some standards so foreign auto makers have to work with Chinese
    Nobody demand the world to switch to English. You're daydreaming to
    have an example to support your argument but this is a wrong example.

    But it's fine for China to leave 802.11i and use its own standard.
    Later chinese businessman will find their notebook computers gotta be
    WLAN (wired LAN) when they leave China, hehe, even to visit Hong Kong.
    And foreign reporters arrive in Beijing for 2008 summer games and find
    their WLAN computers are illegal in China.
    LEAP CKIP WAS WEAS..... hehe, I'm gonna leave these acronyms for
    sci.crypt experts to decipher.

    China wanna use her own WLAN standard? Fine. Now China has a benefit
    for blocking foreign companies away from WLAN market, but soon when
    China grows, it realize its diffrent standard also blocks its own
    company from going to foreign world and form a "China vs. them" game.
    If China wanna another standard, go ahead! :p

    But these legacy standards don't force Intel to work with her
    competitors while China WAPI do. How many times do you need to hear
    this to understand it?
    These legacy standards don't force Intel to work with her competitors
    while China WAPI do. Any question?
    No. But they follow IEEE specs, and all other WLAN chipset makers
    follw IEEE specs. Time for China to form her own Chinese institute of
    electrical and electrnic engineers and have a CIEEE standard. :^)
    Guru Google, Apr 9, 2004
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