Inquiry: Dual Slots Motherboards

Darren Harris · Jul 6, 2003

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small server, or video editing system).

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

John Russell · Jul 6, 2003

"Darren Harris" wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small server, or video editing system).

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

I presume you mean Dual Channel memory? For a minute I had visions of one of those old dual CPU Slot athlon boards. This is one of the most debated topics on Nforce forums. If I say little value someone is sure to say it improves things significantly. Lets consider some things. Every application runs by moving code/data between CPU and memory,via the chipset. So if you run the memory interface faster than the CPU interface, the CPU interface acts as bottleneck. Why was it there you might ask. The Nforce with integrated GPU uses system memory. It is linked directly to the memory and is not hindered by the CPU interface. It should get the full benefit of the dual channel memeory. The downside is the integrated GPU is not the fastest thing out there! Nvidia recognise this limitation and now have a chipset which dosn't have dual channel. It's 400mhz approved and recently tested faster than a dual channel board. Simplicity means extra speed I suppose.

Darren Harris · Jul 6, 2003

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

It is for a video editing system I want to build.

Thanks again.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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"John Russell" wrote:

"Darren Harris" wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small server, or video editing system).

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
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Martin Eriksson · Jul 7, 2003

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

Do that.. *shrug* I have had my fair share of problems with dual-CPU systems, although they are interesting from a developer perspective.

It is for a video editing system I want to build.

It could probably make use of dual CPUs if it's a good program. I would imagine that two frames can be processed in parallel. For server purposes it's nice with a dual system, my BP6 has served me for years with excellent results... until now that is (caps starts to fail... bohooo).

/M

John Lewis · Jul 7, 2003

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:41:25 +0200, "Martin Eriksson"
wrote:

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can
take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just
concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

Do that.. *shrug* I have had my fair share of problems with dual-CPU systems, although they are interesting from a developer perspective.

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A dual-processor board would be useful for video editing, especially for software rendering of wipes and effects. Would need to be capable of running the latest Intel P4 HT processors

I run Adobe Premiere with a single 3.06Ghz Intel HT processor. Get about 20% rendering speed-up with HT (dual-core) enabled.

A dual-processor 3.0GHz/800MHz/HT-capable board would really whiz especially with dual-channel 800MHz memory on each processor. Dunno if such a board is available. Would not be inexpensive......:-(

John Lewis

It could probably make use of dual CPUs if it's a good program. I would imagine that two frames can be processed in parallel. For server purposes it's nice with a dual system, my BP6 has served me for years with excellent results... until now that is (caps starts to fail... bohooo).

/M

Martin Eriksson · Jul 7, 2003

"John Lewis" wrote:

A dual-processor 3.0GHz/800MHz/HT-capable board would really whiz especially with dual-channel 800MHz memory on each processor. Dunno if such a board is available. Would not be inexpensive......:-(

Nope, but from the sound of OP it was like he's getting a dual P3 800 or something like that. Would be much better to get a P4 2.4 with DDR RAM in that case.

/M

John Russell · Jul 7, 2003

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

It is for a video editing system I want to build.

Thanks again.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Well the first option was right one after all.. Ignore all my crap about dual channel memory.

HamMan · Jul 7, 2003

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

It is for a video editing system I want to build.

Thanks again.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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"John Russell" wrote:

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"Darren Harris" wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small
server, or video editing system).

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
... one of those old dual CPU Slot athlon boards.
This is one of the most debated topics on Nforce forums. If I say little value someone is sure to say it improves things significantly. Lets consider some things. Every application runs by moving code/data between CPU and memory,via the chipset. So if you run the memory interface faster than the CPU interface, the CPU interface acts as bottleneck. Why was it there you might ask. The Nforce with integrated GPU uses system memory. It is linked directly to the memory and is not hindered by the CPU interface. It should get the full benefit of the dual channel memeory. The downside is the integrated GPU is not the fastest thing out there! Nvidia recognise this limitation and now have a chipset which dosn't have dual channel. It's 400mhz approved and recently tested faster than a dual channel board. Simplicity means extra speed I suppose.

For video editing you'll notice a difference with 64bit, as long as youre using a decent program like Adobe Premiere which can use both at once.

If its a new board+chips, i'd wait for the AMD64 which is coming out in a few months.

Martin Eriksson · Jul 7, 2003

"HamMan" wrote:

For video editing you'll notice a difference with 64bit, as long as youre using a decent program like Adobe Premiere which can use both at once.

64bit has nothing to do with dual cpu systems. I have a dual celeron 400 system which is 32bit.

If its a new board+chips, i'd wait for the AMD64 which is coming out in a few months.

Waiting is often counterproductive. The first AMD64 platforms will quickly be obsolete.

/M

John Russell · Jul 7, 2003

"Martin Eriksson" wrote:

"HamMan" wrote:

For video editing you'll notice a difference with 64bit, as long as youre using a decent program like Adobe Premiere which can use both at once.

64bit has nothing to do with dual cpu systems. I have a dual celeron 400 system which is 32bit.

If its a new board+chips, i'd wait for the AMD64 which is coming out in a few months.

Waiting is often counterproductive. The first AMD64 platforms will quickly be obsolete.

/M

Or waiting is prudent. Let others iron out the bugs and go for revision 2 or 3.

ytrewq · Jul 7, 2003

For video editing you'll notice a difference with 64bit, as long as youre

using a decent program like Adobe Premiere which can use both at once. <<

What? Please provide URL that there is a 64 bit version of Premiere available that will run on P3/P4/Xeon. This seems unlikely since these CPU's are all 32 bit. ================================ "HamMan" wrote:

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just
concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

It is for a video editing system I want to build.

Thanks again.

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"John Russell" wrote:
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"Darren Harris" wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small server, or video editing system).

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

I presume you mean Dual Channel memory? For a minute I had visions of one ...

ytrewq · Jul 7, 2003

What is exact hardware?
Look at http://www.2cpu.com/
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"Darren Harris" wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small server, or video editing system).

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

ytrewq · Jul 7, 2003

A dual-processor 3.0GHz/800MHz/HT-capable board would really

whiz especially with dual-channel 800MHz memory on each processor. Dunno if such a board is available. Would not be inexpensive <<

The only dual setups available in current Intel world are Xeon. Xeon has very low performance/$$$. P3 dual solutions exist, but they top out at lower performance than current P4 offerings. See www.2cpu.com ======================== "John Lewis" wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:41:25 +0200, "Martin Eriksson"
wrote:

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can
take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just
concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

Do that.. *shrug* I have had my fair share of problems with dual-CPU ... excellent results... until now that is (caps starts to fail... bohooo).

/M

Spajky · Jul 7, 2003

On 6 Jul 2003 10:42:04 -0700, (Darren Harris)
wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small server, or video editing system).

This guy was selling his mobo (remanufactured) on eBay last month he has done an excelent job & IMHO for video editing the best... dual Asus BX board with p3-S x2 !!!! Mail him! http://tipperlinne.com/p2b-dsvtt.htm

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Phil Weldon · Jul 7, 2003

Since Pentium 4 CPU's are not dual processor capable, and since Pentium 4 CPU's don't use slot sockets, and since only multiprocessor operating systems AND multiprocessor applications are required to take advantage of multiple processors, and since HT is not at all the same as multiple physical processors, then your post misses the mark.

Phil Weldon,

"John Lewis" wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:41:25 +0200, "Martin Eriksson"
wrote:

"Darren Harris" wrote:

Thanks.

I asked, because I have an opportunity to get a motherboard that can take two processors. But I guess for simplicity, I should just concentrate on getting a normal mobo that takes a single processor.

Do that.. *shrug* I have had my fair share of problems with dual-CPU ... excellent results... until now that is (caps starts to fail... bohooo).

/M

Darren Harris · Jul 18, 2003

Thanks a lot everyone.

All in all, it seems as though a dual processor capable motherboard is really no big deal , and probably may just cause more headaches.

Thanks again.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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Spajky <Spajky##@volja.net> wrote:

On 6 Jul 2003 10:42:04 -0700, (Darren Harris)
wrote:

I haven't seen much on dual slots motherbords lately and was wondering
if there are any real advantages to using one(for home pc, small
server, or video editing system).

This guy was selling his mobo (remanufactured) on eBay last month he has done an excelent job & IMHO for video editing the best... dual Asus BX board with p3-S x2 !!!! Mail him! http://tipperlinne.com/p2b-dsvtt.htm

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