iPad Mini Makes Picture Sound

Discussion in 'Apple' started by W, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. W

    Guest Guest

    the key is they can't install such software on an ios device. period.
    not for ios devices, they can't.
    all code is sanboxed and codesigned. there is *no* way one app can
    monitor or alter what another app is doing. period. this is by design.

    *if* you jailbreak, then it's possible that a jailbreak app can do
    stuff like that, but *not* the legitimate apps. you said you didn't
    jailbreak so there is no malware of any kind on your device.
     
    Guest, Jan 7, 2014
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  2. W

    Guest Guest

    I wonder if it could be the gyro. I don't know how it works, but maybe
    the accelerometer turns it off when the iPad is lying at rest, to save
    power.[/QUOTE]

    definitely not.

    the gyro and accelerometer do not make sounds and nothing turns off to
    save power when it's put on a table. that would adversely affect many
    apps, such as listening to music.

    whatever app is in use at the time is making the sound.
     
    Guest, Jan 7, 2014
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  3. W

    Guest Guest

    That's a great thought, but in that case I would expect to find a lot of
    screenshots in the photos library, corresponding to each of those screen
    click sounds I had been hearing. The only one I found was the one I just
    took.[/QUOTE]

    then it's the app you're using that's making the sound.
     
    Guest, Jan 7, 2014
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  4. W

    Guest Guest

    could be.
     
    Guest, Jan 7, 2014
    #24
  5. Try taking all apps out of memory and check to see what is in memory
    after it happens,
     
    M. John Matlaw, Jan 7, 2014
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  6. W

    Guest Guest

    and how do you propose someone do that??
     
    Guest, Jan 7, 2014
    #26
  7. I probably didn't describe my suggestion correctly. What I was trying
    to suggest was to double tap the home button and drag each and every app
    off and when the situation recurred see which apps showed up after
    double tapping the home button.
     
    M. John Matlaw, Jan 8, 2014
    #27
  8. W

    W Guest

    I understand that they might use processes to limit the scope of what one
    application can do.

    Most trojans on a cell phone though are not use to spy on other
    applications. They are used to take photos, turn on the phone to listen in
    to conversations in a room, etc. The rogue application would not have less
    capability than any other application on the phone.
     
    W, Jan 9, 2014
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  9. W

    W Guest

    Next time this happens I will try that, thanks.

    And thank you for clarifying the thought.
     
    W, Jan 9, 2014
    #29
  10. W

    Guest Guest

    I understand that they might use processes to limit the scope of what one
    application can do.

    Most trojans on a cell phone though are not use to spy on other
    applications. They are used to take photos, turn on the phone to listen in
    to conversations in a room, etc. The rogue application would not have less
    capability than any other application on the phone.[/QUOTE]

    rogue applications cannot run on an iphone (outside of a jailbroken
    phone, which removes all of the security).
     
    Guest, Jan 9, 2014
    #30
  11. W

    W Guest

    rogue applications cannot run on an iphone (outside of a jailbroken
    phone, which removes all of the security).[/QUOTE]

    How can Apple check every line of code in every one of 10K+ applications?

    If they cannot check every line of code, then some line of code could - in
    some circumstance - do malicious things, against Apple's policy or control.
     
    W, Jan 10, 2014
    #31
  12. W

    W Guest

    The problem discontinued, but the next time it starts I will try this as
    well.
     
    W, Jan 10, 2014
    #32
  13. W

    Alan Baker Guest

    Sorry... ...but no.

    one line of code CANNOT do something malicious.

    Try again.
     
    Alan Baker, Jan 10, 2014
    #33
  14. W

    Lewis Guest

    Which means it could do none of those things without you giving it
    permission to access your camera, your photos, and your microphone.
     
    Lewis, Jan 10, 2014
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  15. W

    Guest Guest

    How can Apple check every line of code in every one of 10K+ applications?[/QUOTE]

    they don't have to check every line of code.

    one thing they do is check to see what api calls an app uses and if any
    of those are not among the public official apis, the app is rejected.
    this is an automated process and takes almost no time to do.
    not when the apps are sandboxed.

    there is *no* way one app can access the data of another app. period.

    as mentioned above, any attempt to get past that will result in a
    rejection. even doing something entirely legitimate that happens to use
    private api calls will cause it to be rejected.

    a jailbroken phone removes all security, so anything goes. that's how
    you can run unofficial apps and other hacks that never would have made
    it to the official app store.
     
    Guest, Jan 10, 2014
    #35
  16. W

    W Guest

    What kind of sleight of hand is that to infer that I was saying a single
    line of code would cause a trojan? I never said that or inferred that.

    Apple cannot check all of the source code in every application on their
    store, and whole sections of that code might be used for a bad intent.

    I am not saying it would be easy, and certainly the App Store is a less
    likely place to find a Trojan than programs in unrestricted environments
    that would run on a phone that has been rooted. But unless Apple can test
    every possible code path in every program, there is no way there can be
    certainty about how the programs would behave in all cases.
     
    W, Jan 12, 2014
    #36
  17. W

    W Guest

    applications?

    they don't have to check every line of code.

    one thing they do is check to see what api calls an app uses and if any
    of those are not among the public official apis, the app is rejected.
    this is an automated process and takes almost no time to do.
    control.

    not when the apps are sandboxed.

    there is *no* way one app can access the data of another app. period.[/QUOTE]

    So what? I never said that one program would access any part of any other
    program. People keep repeating this point, as if it is a requirement for
    a Trojan. It is not.

    If a program can behave like a cell phone, and make calls, inspect common
    address book information, open data connections to a remote host, etc,
    plenty of mischief can be done.

    I understand that such a program might not get root access and might not
    have access to other applications. That gives me little comfort.
     
    W, Jan 12, 2014
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  18. W

    W Guest

    Right, and how many people in normal course reject the installation of
    applications from the app store that ask for those permissions?

    My guess is that 5% of users even read those those requested permissions and
    think about them.
     
    W, Jan 12, 2014
    #38
  19. W

    Your Name Guest

    Yet again: There is NO iOS malware, but you continue to believe
    whatever nonense you want to. The queue for the tin foil hats is at the
    otrher end of the building.

    Another fool joins the killfile. :-\
     
    Your Name, Jan 12, 2014
    #39
  20. So what? I never said that one program would access any part of any other
    program. People keep repeating this point, as if it is a requirement for
    a Trojan. It is not.

    If a program can behave like a cell phone, and make calls, inspect common
    address book information, open data connections to a remote host, etc,
    plenty of mischief can be done.

    I understand that such a program might not get root access and might not
    have access to other applications. That gives me little comfort.[/QUOTE]

    If it can't access other applications and data from other applications,
    then it can't do any of that. It's that simple.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Jan 12, 2014
    #40
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