just sent this to Steve Jobs

Discussion in 'HP' started by Autymn D. C., Oct 3, 2005.

  1. Autymn D. C.

    Autymn D. C. Guest

    Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
    long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
    Read mine first.
    -Aut

    Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
    Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
    Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT

    <http://groups.google.com/group/comp...9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>

    Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
    Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
    irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?

    <http://groups.google.com/group/comp...tens+to+Kill+Google"&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>

    And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
    argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
    keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
    sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
    emulate just about any input device.

    Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
    newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
    wishes from it:
    <http://groups.google.com/group/comp...cb2?q="sent+this+to"&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
    It should even bring a new market for the iPod.

    -Aut
     
    Autymn D. C., Oct 3, 2005
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    7 Guest

    Autymn D. C. wrote:

    Tell him to get a decent PC and run GNU/Linux on it.
    Some 300 liveCDs here....
    http://www.livecdlist.com
    Quantian liveCD for example has xmaxima that allows
    symbolic maths manipulation for physics students.
    All free, open source and done up by techies.
     
    7, Oct 3, 2005
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  3. If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.

    If you want ease of use, windows is the way.

    About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
    designer.

    You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
    AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
    different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
    generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
    while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
    The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
    devised.

    Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
    I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
    this:
    Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
    computers to those who do it better.
     
    Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors, Oct 3, 2005
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  4. Autymn D. C.

    TravelinMan Guest

    Oh, look. Another of Bill Gates' minions who has never used a Mac.
     
    TravelinMan, Oct 3, 2005
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  5. Intel gives computer markers a whole chipset and cpu together in one
    package, it's a saving for them, when if you go AMD you need to make a
    seperate deal with the chipset makers. This mainly applies to notebooks, the
    whole centrino thing is a very good deal for computer markers.
    That's a weird opinion.
     
    Nicholas Buenk, Oct 3, 2005
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  6. Linux is a pain in the ass, it makes doing things that should be simple into
    a huge google search and study of config files. If OSX is released for
    generic PC's, I think it will be a linux killer.
     
    Nicholas Buenk, Oct 3, 2005
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  7. If you want both of these at the same time, OSX is the way.
    Actually Intel isn't really that good with interger or floating point
    performance. What they are good at is vector performance, important for
    things like vidoe encoding. And anyway, I'd argue that interger performance
    is of lower importance today, as most tasks a computer does can be done
    equally well on 5 year old hardware. It's vector and floating point
    performance that still drives demand for more powerful CPU's.
    Right, but OSX does have excellent support for all manner of mice, with
    support for multiple buttons, scroll wheel and right click context menus.
    Apple does a equally good just with computers. But it's hard for them break
    into the market in a major way because their computers won't run mostof the
    software on the market, a similar reason for why linux market share is tiny
    compared to windows.
     
    Nicholas Buenk, Oct 3, 2005
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  8. Autymn D. C.

    Uncle Al Guest

    [snip]

    Amen. Dig the dual-core Opterons - 32- and 64-bit compatible, x86
    compatible, low power consumption, faster throughput, vastly larger
    memory bandwidth with controller on-chip... and cheaper than the Intel
    competition.
     
    Uncle Al, Oct 3, 2005
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  9. Autymn D. C.

    Autymn D. C. Guest

    Yes, I can open and shut windows easily. And Linux can delete itself
    fast and well!
    Which computer do you suggest?
    Intel is a fourth to a third worse than AMD in work and waste, at
    similar speeds and retail prices. Kill CISC now. Intel is a criminal.

    Macs should've always been IBM-AMD mates:
    http://systemshootouts.org/processors.html.
    I've used one-button and three-button rolling mouses, the three-button
    trackball, the two-button scrolling sliding mouse, and the one-button
    trackpad. If you weren't a Weeny, you would know that the MacOS is
    made to be faster with one button. But you're clueless about a tool
    that does many functions at once. Learn the hold-click, and you'll not
    go back.
    There are no companies that make better computers. Apples aren't even
    Personal Computers, in the way of doling out to personnel, but Intimate
    Computers, in the way of a sculpted killer tool.
    All flames go to^

    -Aut
     
    Autymn D. C., Oct 3, 2005
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    Autymn D. C. Guest

    Where are the reviews? Can they compete with
    <http://www.google.com/search?num=10...rades+for+life"+OR+"free+lifetime+upgrades">?

    ICs (Intimate Computers, Mac*s, Power*s) can run over 18 OSes,
    especially the good ones well. They can also take expansion cards to
    use other chipsets and run however many OSes /they/ can, but with fewer
    good ones well.

    -Aut
     
    Autymn D. C., Oct 3, 2005
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  11. Don't you just love uninformed opinions?
     
    George Graves, Oct 3, 2005
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  12. If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
    build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
    and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
    <$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
    register, make the headlines with new security holes.

    It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
    need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
    functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
    find, download, and install it yourself.
     
    Bill Davidsen, Oct 3, 2005
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    Guest

    The substrate doesn't matter. Just as long as it lets you communicate
    with other fellow neurons, the whole will form the Global Brain. Any
    means to an end.
     
    , Oct 3, 2005
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    Rgdawson Guest

    ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.

    Sorry to break the news!

    http://www.walmart.com/

    They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
    popular. Linux is fading.
    Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications, while Windows has more,
    Apple has much better Apps, Linux has neither for the general consumer.
     
    Rgdawson, Oct 3, 2005
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    Roy Culley Guest

    begin risky.vbs
    You are a despicable liar.

    <http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...=3944&path=0:3944:3951:41937#What's+Included>

    Xandros SurfSide Linux

    Additional software Includes:

    Fed up with malicious spyware, viruses and worms that can monitor
    your activities, steal your credit information, cripple your
    machine, and destroy your personal files? Xandros SurfSide Linux
    provides the Carefree Internet choice:
     
    Roy Culley, Oct 3, 2005
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    <http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762911>

    "
    New Linspire version Five-0 pre-installed
    CNR Service FREE 15-day Trial Offer
    Complete MS Office file-compatible Office Suite
    "

    " Linspire Linux is an easy-to-use, full-featured desktop operating
    system that is totally familiar for Windows users of all experience
    levels. Linspire comes with everything you need to browse the Internet,
    instant message, e-mail, share and write documents, work with digital
    photos, listen to music, play games and much more. "


    Oxford full of shit again? say it isn't so....

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    Jim Richardson, Oct 4, 2005
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    Rick Guest

    <http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...pt=3944&path=0:3944:3951:41937:231785:231793>

    It seems tha baove comes with Xandros pre-installed.
    ahah HAH ah AHhah AHAHHAH ahh AHHA h AHAH aHAHha
    Yes, it does.
    ... in your opinion.
    We have shown this to be a lie before.
     
    Rick, Oct 4, 2005
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    Rick Guest

    I can't wait to see how he tries to explain away this and the Xandros
    machines.
     
    Rick, Oct 4, 2005
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    Bob Cain Guest

    How does yours differ?


    Bob
    --

    "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
    simpler."

    A. Einstein
     
    Bob Cain, Oct 4, 2005
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    Rgdawson Guest

    wal-mart's solaris based servers sure suck at finding Linux! they
    certainly don't show any Linux machines by searching for Linux in the
    search fields of the entire site or in electronics. Walmart is probably
    embarrassed by selling such low margin, low profit products so they bury
    them.

    So I guess, if you really dig at the back of the online store you can
    find them, but most any shopper for Linux will think they don't sell
    them. They certainly aren't under "Linux".

    :)
     
    Rgdawson, Oct 4, 2005
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