Yes. See sig. Go to link.The subject says it all really, I understand that the XP1800 (Palemino 'Green') CPU is 133mhz/266mhz bus can it be dropped to 200mhz?
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 16:48:56 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
The subject says it all really, I understand that the XP1800 (Palemino
'Green') CPU is 133mhz/266mhz bus can it be dropped to 200mhz?
Yes. See sig. Go to link.
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Yep. It is unknown by the bios. No prblem. Curious why/how 1475 though. Sound like you didn't set the multiplier very high.OK, have it running at 1475mhz, not full wack, but it works. The BIOS updated to A9 without issue, but reports the processor as 'unknown' type.
OK, this either isn't a Palomino, or it's been unlocked. Otherwise it wouldn't use the 12.5 multiplier used with the 12xabove setting. What's the CPUID? I need to know which cpu you have. PN and stepping from label would be just as good as cpuid. BTW, that's the highest FSB I've seen for the KT133 chipset. I can't get over plus 16.Further help required, unable to get aobe 1488mhz.
From the BIOS,
CPU Operating speed = User defined
Multipler Factor = 12xabove
CPU FSB/PCI = 100/33mhz
CPU FSB plus (MHz) = 18
This gives me 1475mhz, but if I try to push 20 or above then system won't boot.
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:41:53 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
Further help required, unable to get aobe 1488mhz.
From the BIOS,
CPU Operating speed = User defined
Multipler Factor = 12xabove
CPU FSB/PCI = 100/33mhz
CPU FSB plus (MHz) = 18
This gives me 1475mhz, but if I try to push 20 or above then system ...
You're in for a treat. That's a Tbred B core. Look at the L3 bridges and you will see a laser cut on the first one that opened it. Well, you need to open the 3rd and last (L3-3 and L3-5). This will set the cpu default multiplier to 13.5. After you've done that, just plug it in and reboot. Should come up at default 2000MHz (20x100). You will probably want to raise vcore to 1.65v or higher if you have a stability problem. See multiplier cross ref in link below. That's an older cpu (0251) and not the best stepping, but I don't think you'll have a problem with 2000MHz. Might want to raise vcore to 1.75v before you shut down, just in case. If you have a boot problem, remove the power cord for 15 seconds, then power on holding the Insert down til it beeps, then go into cmos and set everything and save it.This CPU is green in colour. Markings from CPU Chip
AXDA1800DUT3C 9268716250026
JIUCB 0251RPMW (C) 19999
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:42:00 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
This CPU is green in colour. Markings from CPU Chip
AXDA1800DUT3C 9268716250026
JIUCB 0251RPMW (C) 19999
You're in for a treat. That's a Tbred B core. Look at the L3 bridges and you will see a laser cut on the first one that opened it. Well, you need to open the 3rd and last (L3-3 and L3-5). This will set the cpu default multiplier to 13.5. After you've done that, just plug it in and reboot. Should come up at default 2000MHz (20x100). You will probably want to ...
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:42:00 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
This CPU is green in colour. Markings from CPU Chip
AXDA1800DUT3C 9268716250026
JIUCB 0251RPMW (C) 19999
You're in for a treat. That's a Tbred B core. Look at the L3 bridges and you will see a laser cut on the first one that opened it. Well, you need to open the 3rd and last (L3-3 and L3-5). This will set the cpu default multiplier to 13.5. After you've done that, just plug it in and reboot. Should come up at default 2000MHz (20x100). You will probably want to ...
I don't know much about scaples. I used a razor blade (exacto knife).Would a scaple break the link? Will I been needing a magfiying glass?
The lines are just below the surface. but don't cut too deep.I has pulled the cpu out and have it on a well lit static mat, however don't see any lines on the surface to cut.
Yes, possibly, depending on which ones you cut. Not all combos are valid, and some would try and use multipliers over 20x.Would seem I have clearly done this wrong, system won't boot unless I hold down the INS key, and the it states "BAD CHECK SUM CMOS, insert boot disk" or some such message, either way clearing the BIOS using the on board jumper still results in non-booting system. If I clear the BIOS and place a 1.2Ghz Athlon in the CPU socket, system boots. Would accidently cutting a L3 bridge next to one of the ones I need to cut do this?
Yep, closing them is a pita, but it can be done. Do you have a vom to check which are open and which are closed? Here's some that wouldn't work.I assume restoring this undesired track cut will be more difficult than cutting them in the first place, I also assume that I've not totally knackered the CPU since I can get this BIOS message in the first place.
"Wes Newell" wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:42:00 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
This CPU is green in colour. Markings from CPU Chip
AXDA1800DUT3C 9268716250026
JIUCB 0251RPMW (C) 19999
You're in for a treat. That's a Tbred B core. Look at the L3 bridges and
you will see a laser cut on the first one that opened it. Well, you need
to open the 3rd and last (L3-3 and L3-5). This will set the cpu default ...
disk"On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 18:06:09 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
Would seem I have clearly done this wrong, system won't boot unless I hold down the INS key, and the it states "BAD CHECK SUM CMOS, insert boot
1.2Ghzor some such message, either way clearing the BIOS using the on board jumper still results in non-booting system. If I clear the BIOS and place a
14.5X)Athlon in the CPU socket, system boots. Would accidently cutting a L3 bridge next to one of the ones I need to cut do this?
Yes, possibly, depending on which ones you cut. Not all combos are valid, and some would try and use multipliers over 20x.
I assume restoring this undesired track cut will be more difficult than
cutting them in the first place, I also assume that I've not totally
knackered the CPU since I can get this BIOS message in the first place.
Yep, closing them is a pita, but it can be done. Do you have a vom to check which are open and which are closed? Here's some that wouldn't work. ...
15.5X--O--C--C--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 22X)
17.5X--O--C--O--O--O Documented Remap To 18X
18.0X--C--O--O--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 23X)
18.5X--O--O--O--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 24X)
"Wes Newell" wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:42:00 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
This CPU is green in colour. Markings from CPU Chip
... and you will see a laser cut on the first one that opened it. Well, you need to open the 3rd and last (L3-3 and L3-5). This will set the cpu default multiplier to 13.5. After you've done that, just plug it in and reboot.
Should come up at default 2000MHz (20x100). You will probably want to
raise vcore to 1.65v or higher if you have a stability problem. See
multiplier cross ref in link below. That's an older cpu (0251) and not the best stepping, but I don't think you'll have a problem with 2000MHz. Might want to raise vcore to 1.75v before you shut down, just in case. If you have a boot problem, remove the power cord for 15 seconds, then power on holding the Insert down til it beeps, then go into cmos and set everything and save it.
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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html
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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html
disk"On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 18:06:09 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
Would seem I have clearly done this wrong, system won't boot unless I hold down the INS key, and the it states "BAD CHECK SUM CMOS, insert boot
1.2Ghzor some such message, either way clearing the BIOS using the on board jumper still results in non-booting system. If I clear the BIOS and place a
14.5X)Athlon in the CPU socket, system boots. Would accidently cutting a L3 bridge next to one of the ones I need to cut do this?
Yes, possibly, depending on which ones you cut. Not all combos are valid, and some would try and use multipliers over 20x.
I assume restoring this undesired track cut will be more difficult than cutting them in the first place, I also assume that I've not totally knackered the CPU since I can get this BIOS message in the first place.
Yep, closing them is a pita, but it can be done. Do you have a vom to check which are open and which are closed? Here's some that wouldn't work. ...
15.5X--O--C--C--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 22X)
17.5X--O--C--O--O--O Documented Remap To 18X
18.0X--C--O--O--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 23X)
18.5X--O--O--O--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 24X)
"Wes Newell" wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 00:42:00 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
This CPU is green in colour. Markings from CPU Chip
... and you will see a laser cut on the first one that opened it. Well, you need to open the 3rd and last (L3-3 and L3-5). This will set the cpu default multiplier to 13.5. After you've done that, just plug it in and reboot. Should come up at default 2000MHz (20x100). You will probably want to raise vcore to 1.65v or higher if you have a stability problem. See multiplier cross ref in link below. That's an older cpu (0251) and not the best stepping, but I don't think you'll have a problem with 2000MHz. Might want to raise vcore to 1.75v before you shut down, just in case. If you have a boot problem, remove the power cord for 15 seconds, then power on holding the Insert down til it beeps, then go into cmos and set everything and save it.
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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html
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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html
Wes,
L3-2 is also broken, and haven't been able to rebuild the bridge with any sucess, would seem a lost cause now, good job didn't pay for the processor i guess.
Put this one down to education, less speed and more care.
Thanks for all assistance.
Re:
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work.L3 or whatever # Bridge Repair
Try this method if you have access to good electronics repair eqpt.: Get a 12" length of 22 or 20 awg stranded wire like the kind that comes with your car stereo installation kit, strip the insulation back about 4" and unlay the twist in the wire so that you have all the strands separated. Using a high powered illuminated magnifier and some Wal-Mart reading glasses (magnifier lenses) and some scotch transparent tape, position and tape the wire strands one at a time across the L3 bridges you want to close. If you're capable of soldering the strands to the circular pads on either side of the bridge, fine, just be careful of the fiberglas core mounting wafer (the green pcb that holds the core... It ... any sucess, would seem a lost cause now, good job didn't pay for the processor i guess.
Put this one down to education, less speed and more care.
Thanks for all assistance.
Re:
Joe.
... valid, and some would try and use multipliers over 20x.
I assume restoring this undesired track cut will be more difficult than cutting them in the first place, I also assume that I've not totally knackered the CPU since I can get this BIOS message in the first place.
Yep, closing them is a pita, but it can be done. Do you have a vom to check which are open and which are closed? Here's some that wouldn't
to14.5X--O--O--O--C--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 21X, L3 bridges reset
reboot.14.5X)
15.5X--O--C--C--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 22X)
17.5X--O--C--O--O--O Documented Remap To 18X
18.0X--C--O--O--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 23X)
18.5X--O--O--O--O--O Reserved (Found Remapped to 24X)
"Wes Newell" wrote:
... default multiplier to 13.5. After you've done that, just plug it in and
Should come up at default 2000MHz (20x100). You will probably want to raise vcore to 1.65v or higher if you have a stability problem. See multiplier cross ref in link below. That's an older cpu (0251) and not
the
best stepping, but I don't think you'll have a problem with 2000MHz.
Might
want to raise vcore to 1.75v before you shut down, just in case. If you have a boot problem, remove the power cord for 15 seconds, then power
on
holding the Insert down til it beeps, then go into cmos and set
everything
and save it.
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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) ...
Don't give up on it yet. Even if you can't get the bridges closed you can stil use it. There's always more than one way to skin a cat. unless you've destroyed the little bridge post, it can still be fixed. And even if you did destroy the post, you can change the multiplier other ways. To close that bridge externally, all you need to do is short it to ground. You can do this with a piece of wire in the socket. Check out these sites.Wes,
L3-2 is also broken, and haven't been able to rebuild the bridge with any sucess, would seem a lost cause now, good job didn't pay for the processor i guess.
Put this one down to education, less speed and more care.
Noooooo........ Oh well, probably too late to pull it out. If you decide to have another go at this, get a 2100+ B core or 2400+. You don't have to mod them, they plug and go.Dave,
Tried, and failed, it's in the bin now.
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:38:02 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
Wes,
L3-2 is also broken, and haven't been able to rebuild the bridge with any sucess, would seem a lost cause now, good job didn't pay for the processor i guess.
Put this one down to education, less speed and more care.
Don't give up on it yet. Even if you can't get the bridges closed you can stil use it. There's always more than one way to skin a cat. unless you've destroyed the little bridge post, it can still be fixed. And even if you did destroy the post, you can change the multiplier other ways. To close that bridge externally, all you need to do is short it to ground. You can do this with a piece of wire in the socket. Check out these sites.
http://www.beachlink.com/candjac/TbredDecode0.htm#Table ...
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:13:24 +0100, Joe Bloggs wrote:
Dave,
Tried, and failed, it's in the bin now.
Noooooo........ Oh well, probably too late to pull it out. If you decide to have another go at this, get a 2100+ B core or 2400+. You don't have to mod them, they plug and go.
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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) ...
