Microsoft to force Windows updates?

Discussion in 'Dell' started by Steve, Aug 22, 2003.

  1. Steve

    Testy Guest

    And we should care what you do because......???

    Testy
     
    Testy, Aug 24, 2003
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  2. My computer is fire walled, and I refuse to go beyond Win2K SP2
    on this system because of the licensing agreement in later
    service packs (I was required to go to SP4 at work). If I'm
    forced to upgrade Win2K past SP2, it'll be Linux (or perhaps a
    Mac).
    Interestingly enough, my work account, that I use for external
    communications (to other corporations), is being hammered Sobig.
    My personal account isn't, at least so far. I guess that means
    my friends are more careful than major corporations. ;-)

    <snip>
     
    Keith R. Williams, Aug 24, 2003
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  3. Steve

    Rick Guest

    Well, because Greg is by no means alone in his sentiments.
    The business world is ignoring WinXP en masse because of
    MS crap like this.

    Rick
     
    Rick, Aug 24, 2003
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  4. Steve

    Testy Guest

    And the source for your information is.....????

    Testy
     
    Testy, Aug 24, 2003
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  5. Steve

    Rick Guest

    I explained that in my first response. Professional experience. I'm
    a systems integrator and have seen very few companies moving to
    WinXP, or any other Windows version for that matter. The trend
    for the last two years has been away from MS and to Linux, BSD
    and other unix-based OS's.

    Rick
     
    Rick, Aug 24, 2003
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  6. Steve

    Bob Ward Guest


    If it makes you happy to believe this, feel free. The facts don't
    support your assertion.
     
    Bob Ward, Aug 24, 2003
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  7. Steve

    PCyr Guest

    No, just you. Now, do you have any facts you want to present?

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    PCyr, Aug 24, 2003
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  8. Steve

    Testy Guest

    I believe you are neither professional nor experienced.

    Testy
     
    Testy, Aug 24, 2003
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  9. Steve

    Rich/rerat Guest

    Maybe this thread should be moved to MS general.discussion group, or to any other MS XP group. It does not belong here!!!

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    I believe you are neither professional nor experienced.

    Testy
     
    Rich/rerat, Aug 24, 2003
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  10. Steve

    kurttrail Guest

    Is someone forcing you to read this thread? If not, take responsibilty
    for your own actions, and don't read it.

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    kurttrail, Aug 24, 2003
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  11. Steve

    Rick Guest

    Learn not to top post. Good first step.

    Rick
     
    Rick, Aug 24, 2003
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  12. Steve

    Testy Guest

    As usual your opinion is useless.

    Testy

     
    Testy, Aug 24, 2003
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  13. Steve

    Jim Higgins Guest

    PLONK!

     
    Jim Higgins, Aug 24, 2003
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  14. Steve

    Dave C. Guest

    Regardless of whether he's professional or experienced, he has noticed a
    trend that most professional, experienced systems integrators HAVE noticed.
    It is true that most business servers are migrating to non-Microsoft
    operating systems. Last I checked, the ratio was 60% and rising. So I tend
    to believe "Rick" is probably exactly who he says he is. -Dave
     
    Dave C., Aug 24, 2003
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  15. Steve

    kurttrail Guest

    Thanks! Anybody else?! Some people really need to shield themselves
    from the truth, or their whole belief system would start crashing down
    around them!

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    kurttrail, Aug 24, 2003
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  16. Steve

    Dave C. Guest

    The facts are, most business servers are migrating to non-microsoft
    operating systems. Last I checked, the ratio was 60% and rising. It has
    nothing to do with Windows XP in particular. It is more of an economic
    reality. Businesses are finding that open source software is cheaper and
    easier to maintain, as well as being more stable and less prone to errrrr,
    problems than Microsoft solutions. It's not that they are "ignoring" XP.
    It's just that XP happened to be the solution Microsoft was pushing around
    the same time that most businesses started migrating to non-Microsoft
    solutions. So it looks like XP is being ignored. But it's not a case of XP
    or even Microsoft being ignored. It's a case of businesses weighing the
    available options and (mostly) choosing to use the best software available,
    even though it has no connection to Microsoft. So Microsoft shouldn't take
    it personally. -Dave
     
    Dave C., Aug 24, 2003
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  17. Steve

    Testy Guest

    The plain and simple facts simply do not support this. No company I know of
    or work for has even considered this. Simple fact large companies with huge
    investments in hardware and software are unlikely to make such a huge
    change. While other OS's have made some inroads, the overwhelming percentage
    will continue to use MS products. The percentage of home users is even more
    staggering. A simple search for these statistics will bear this out.
    Let's stick to FACTS and not merely state OPINIONS as facts.

    Testy
     
    Testy, Aug 24, 2003
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  18. Steve

    kurttrail Guest

    Then go ahead and do your simple search and present us some facts.

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    kurttrail, Aug 24, 2003
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  19. Steve

    Rick Guest

    Here are a couple Testy might find interesting:

    "The rapidly growing Linux server market increased 35 percent to
    $583 million from the year-ago quarter. "Unit growth and factory
    revenue in the Linux market continue to climb, driven by increasing
    functionality for Linux server hardware and software and by intense
    competition between all the major server vendors,"

    Meanwhile...

    "IDC noted that the Windows server market grew nearly 10 percent
    in 1Q03 in terms of factory revenue, compared to 1Q02."

    http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/2215611

    Rick
     
    Rick, Aug 24, 2003
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  20. Steve

    Rick Guest

    Who suggested that?
    http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

    "Following on from last month, Microsoft continued to lose sites as
    Network Solutions migrated the rest of their domain parking system
    back to Solaris from a Windows based system hosted at Interland.
    This is primarily responsible for Microsoft's 2.2% fall, with a net loss
    of 810,597 sites."
    Who was it that said, "Let's stick to FACTS and not merely state
    OPINIONS as facts"? Oh, now I remember. YOU.

    Rick
     
    Rick, Aug 24, 2003
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