[QUOTE="fred"] SNIP If you'd flashed the latest mobo BIOS when you got it as the competent always do then you'd have never seen the issue. [/QUOTE] Guess you don't flash many BIOS do you? By the posts you have made here, nearly all of which have been wrong, you fall squarely into the definition of "incompetent". Many competent users will not necessarily flash their BIOS just because a later one is available. In many cases, BIOS updates merely add support for processors made available since the last update. In that case, it would make no sense to update if your BIOS supports the processor you have installed. Also, many technically competent people (a category in which you shall never have membership) will adhere to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" adage. You are a complete dolt and really should stop spewing your garbage and simply go away. The intent of these newsgroups is peer support, and since you are wrong 95% of the time, you are doing those seeking help here a great disservice. It is sad that a neophyte may find his way to this group seeking advice only to have you give him totally bogus information. Bobby