new build Asus P4C800 Deluxe - Advice sought re heatsink choice etc., etc.

Discussion in 'Asus' started by Mod, Nov 2, 2003.

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    Mod Guest

    I'm thinking of building a new machine based on the following specs
    and would like some advice re the compatibility of the components,
    The parts I'm thinking of buying are as follows:

    Motherboard Asus P4C800 Deluxe "Canterwood" (Socket 478) Motherboard
    CPU Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - Retail
    RAM Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200LLPT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2
    DVD-ROM Samsung SD-616QBB 16x48x DVD-ROM (Black),
    CD-RW Samsung SW-252B 52x/52x/24x CD-ReWriter (Black) - OEM
    Graphics Card Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI -
    Thermal comp Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
    Floppy Teac 3.5" Black Floppy Disk Drive - OEM
    HeatSink ThermalRight SLK-947U (Socket 478 & Socket A) Cooler

    92mm Fan Vantec 92mm Tornado Fan for heatsink
    Case Lian Li PC 71 Aluminium Full-Tower (No PSU
    PSU Antec TrueBlue 480W PSU

    I will use my existing Hard Drives and (possibly) my Promise FastTrack
    100 TX2 PCI Raid card in a RAID 0+1 config..

    Now, I would appreciate it if anyone with a similar setup could advise
    me as to whether or not all this lot will work happily together, or
    whether there could be issues I'm likely to face.
    For example, will the ThermalRight SLK-947U heatsink fit this board
    and, if not, what's a good alternative?
    I like the look of that particular heatsink and have heard they work
    well with Vantec 92mm Tornado Fans.
    Do you have any experience with this board / HSF setup?

    What about the RAM? Are there any major issues with this board and the
    low latency corsair RAM modules I've listed above?
    Again, I've run into problems with Asus boards and their pickiness re
    RAM in the past and thought that more expensive stuff like this would
    be a wise choice for stability as well as speed.

    Also, considering I'll be RAIDing 4 HDDs as well as hosting CDRW and
    DVD-ROM drives, will the 480W PSU give me enough juice? I'm looking at
    the Antec range because they too have a good reputation for quality
    but I don't know whether to go 550W instead of 480.
    Anyway, that's about all I can think of for now but I'd really
    appreciate any advice on the issues I've raised above.
    Thanks in advance.
    Mod, Nov 2, 2003
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  2. The retail boxed CPUs include a heatsink/fan with them. Unless you are
    planning to overclock the CPU, you might as well use it, as it's likely
    quieter than most 3rd-party coolers..
    Robert Hancock, Nov 3, 2003
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    ragam Guest

    I just got a p4c800-e/p4 2.8 and went with a Zalman 7000 heatsink after hearing
    the loud whir of the intel retail fan...makes a huge difference in the noise
    level. Does great on cooling, too, and has a fan adjuster so you an play with
    the fan speed to your liking.
    ragam, Nov 3, 2003
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    sheer Guest

    P4C800E, 2.8HT, but went cheaper on the ram with Kingston Value Ram twin 1GB
    I bought a Zalman PSU for quietness and changed the standard noisy Intel CPU
    fan to a Zalman Heatsink and Fan.
    Only problem I have now is heat with my HDDs, so unfortunately I have to put
    a case fan in for the HDDs so I will be after a very quiet one any
    suggestions would be appreciated.
    sheer, Nov 3, 2003
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    bmcky Guest

    Hi -

    About the Corsair memory:

    I bought a P4C800 deluxe with 512 mgs of this same memory (dual
    channel) PC 3200 LLPT from Newegg last summer. There's a problem in
    running these using the SPD setting. This may have been fixed since
    then. They were originally advertised as running at 2-2-2-6 but now
    they're rated at something like 2-3-3-6 or something like that. I
    wasn't happy because I specifically chose the Corsair chips to be able
    to run them at these tight settings.

    I think it comes down to whether you want to OC the system. If you do
    not plan to O/C, then I'd assume you want the tight memory settings
    and you'd need to investigate what the 1gig sticks are set to run at.
    If you do plan to O/C, then you wouldn't be able to use the tight
    settings anyway and it wouldn't matter. But then, you'd probably want
    something like at least PC3500 or better, memory.

    I was checking out Mushkin's site for their memory chips and settings
    and they memtioned that the AMI bios didn't recognize the memory
    settings properly and that is the reason more than anything else for
    the problems with the chips. It really isn't anything that Corsair
    did/didn't do. I also have the P4 cooled with a Zalman all copper
    heat sink flower and 2 80 mm fans blowing directly on the MB and CPU,
    along with 9 other fans inside the full tower case. The video card is
    and ATI A-I-W 9700 Pro with a WD 120gig SE hd, running XP Pro. I like
    the setup but it was tricky to set up, due in part that no one would
    mention the bios problem(s). The frequent bios updates for this board
    on Asus' site should have been a tip off, though.

    Good luck if you go ahead with the build, but be sure to look into the
    memory settings first, so you know what to expect.


    Boston, MA
    bmcky, Nov 29, 2003
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    J. Sokalski Guest

    I had problems with Kingston's HyperX 3200 memory and the SPD settings.
    I kept getting corrupted files and failures to copy files when attempting to
    install Win2K or XP. After a week of trying all combinations and
    permutations of drive connections and Raid settings, and changing cards from
    slot to slot, for a week with no success I was about to give up. I got all
    the latest drivers and BIOS upgrades and they did not help either.

    For some reason I thought to check Kingston's web site and the specs. for
    the 2 512mb HyperX modules. I found that the recommended voltage was 1.6+
    and settings of 2,2,2,6,1, and a refresh of 7.8ns. My system was using 1.5
    volts for the memory. When I set the voltage to 1.65 volts and the Kingston
    HyperX timings the system was more stable. When I increased the memory's
    voltage to 1.75 everything became stable and fast.

    When I tried overclocking, or the BIOS turbo mode, the system locked up and
    would not restart. I had to use a jumper to clear the BIOS, and then reset
    all the BIOS settings. The P4C800 deluxe is running fine now.
    J. Sokalski, Dec 11, 2003
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