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Discussion in 'Apple' started by Alan Browne, May 18, 2013.

  1. Alan Browne

    Lewis Guest

     
    Lewis, May 21, 2013
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  2. Alan Browne

    Guest Guest

    not bullshit at all. openoffice does some, but not all of what the real
    office does.
    no they do not. the gimp is roughly where photoshop was 10-15 years
    ago. there's no cmyk and it *still* lacks adjustment layers, making it
    pretty much useless for anything beyond the simplest of projects.
    apple doesn't make a linux incarnation.

    if you mean os x, that's *very* different, and microsoft wrote a
    version for os x using os x apis, not unix apis.

    you are displaying your ignorance.
     
    Guest, May 21, 2013
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  3. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    Yeah, he's utterly mangled the real story.
    That’s not correct, most obviously with WINE.
    But some like Apple do in fact use
    Linux themselves as the basis for iOS.
    But there are plenty of others who do an Office for Linux.
    It mostly can with WINE.
    Try telling that to Apple. Don’t be too surprised when they
    just laugh in your face.
    But is very happy to use it as the basis for iOS and the androids.
    They aint doing that when they use it as the basis for iOS and the androids.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  4. Alan Browne

    Fred Moore Guest

    Its all been done already. Its very easy.[/QUOTE]

    Really? Care to enlighten me, Rod? I've been looking around and haven't
    found anything widely used, which one's grandmother could use, and free
    is certainly a bonus. What software were you thinking of? Thanks for the
    help.
     
    Fred Moore, May 21, 2013
  5. Alan Browne

    Fred Moore Guest

     
    Fred Moore, May 21, 2013
  6. Alan Browne

    D.F. Manno Guest

    You must have Apple confused with Google. Apple is a hardware company.
    Everything Apple does is geared towards getting machines out the door.
    It became a media seller because it spurs sales of iPods and iOS
    devices. It came up with Maps because without such an app people are
    less likely to buy iOS devices.

    The money Apple makes with the iTunes Store is incidental. Any money it
    would make by selling ads in Maps amounts to a rounding error compared
    with the company's other revenues, the bulk of which comes from selling
    machines.
    If you're doing something in order to make it easier to correct what
    you're doing, the tail is wagging the dog.
     
    D.F. Manno, May 21, 2013
  7. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    That’s just plain wrong copyright wise.
    Corse it is.
    Completely trivial to do that.
    You don’t have to store it in a sql database to secure it.
    Nope, trivial.
    So you don’t do it like that.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  8. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    Have fun explaining the Macs running OS X.
    Wrong, you can run them fine with WINE.
    Bullshit with Office.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  9. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    It does the bulk of what most use office for.
    Yes they do.
    That was a comment on the OFFICE clones, not photoshop.
    Irrelevant to what the OFFICE clones can do.
    Irrelevant to the fact that it runs fine on that.
    No, you are.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  10. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    There is plenty of email encryption around.
    There's plenty of that that’s used commercially
    and by operations that need secure email.
    You didn’t say anything about that.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  11. Alan Browne

    Bread Guest

    Jeez, don't make me agree with nospam!

    There is no 100% substitute for Office. It's that simple.

    I'll bet that 90% of what everyday folks use Office for are more than
    adequately, and easily, handled by any of the similar apps, from
    OpenOffice to iWork. But if you fall into the area where there is no
    substitute, there just simply is no substitute.

    I routinely encounter Word and Excel files which do not open or operate
    correctly in OpenOffice or Pages or Numbers. It annoys me, but the
    vendor who provides those files for me is the one I work with. So be
    it. OpenOffice seems to do a little better with some of the excel
    files than Numbers does, but neither is adequate.

    And that's just files. Especially for Excel on Windows -- there are
    plug-ins and services which feed it which require not just Excel but
    Excel for Windows. (Examples are things like Bloomberg data, various
    numerical packages, etc)

    I'm hard pressed to find an instance where a home user can't get by
    with the alternatives. And for most office users, most of the time --
    if you're composing a memo, it just doesn't matter, if you're composing
    a spreadsheet that doesn't require sophisticated code or math, it just
    doesn't matter -- for most users, yes, the alternatives are fine, or
    would be if folks would take the time to learn them (folks don't like
    to do that, either).

    But don't pretend that "something else that does the same thing" is out
    there. There isn't. There are things which can do many of the same
    things, but there just isn't a 100% substitute. Simple as that.
    Um, huh? OS X does not run a linux kernel. It does include many gnu
    tools. That doesn't make it linux, or as the FSF folks may prefer it
    be called, gnu/linux.
    Now you're just looking stupid. Or you're arguing for the sake of
    arguing and doing a fine job of trolling. Either way, it's kind of sad.
     
    Bread, May 21, 2013
  12. In its most recent quarter, revenue from the iTunes Store ($2.4 billion)
    accounted for 5.5% of Apple's total revenue ($43.6 billion). I think
    that's more than just "incidental".
     
    Michelle Steiner, May 21, 2013
  13. Alan Browne

    Larry Gusaas Guest

    OS X is not based on Linux. Do some research and quit making a fool of yourself.

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    Larry I. Gusaas
    Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
    Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
    "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
     
    Larry Gusaas, May 21, 2013
  14. Alan Browne

    Larry Gusaas Guest

    OS X is not Linux. It is not based on Linux. Do some research.

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    Larry I. Gusaas
    Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
    Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
    "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
     
    Larry Gusaas, May 21, 2013
  15. Alan Browne

    Guest Guest

    using wine means the software won't run in linux. it needs something
    additional.
    no they don't. ios has absolutely nothing to do with linux whatsoever.
    with less functionality.

    as i've said before, anyone who thinks the gimp is equivalent to
    photoshop has no idea what photoshop can do. even photoshop elements
    does more, nevermind the full photoshop. the gimp is roughly where
    photoshop was 10-15 years ago. it's actually pathetic how far behind
    the gimp is. plus it's much slower.
    'mostly can'. that means it isn't a replacement.
     
    Guest, May 21, 2013
  16. Alan Browne

    Guest Guest

    mac os x has *nothing* whatsoever to do with linux.
    for some definition of fine. not everything works.

    for some users that won't matter, but for many users, it will.

    cs5:
    <http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20158>

    What does not
    AAM
    Installation 
    Bridge needs workaround
    Merge to HDR
    Automatic detection of GPU 
    It is slow
    Brushes (you can flip a coin whether it will make track or it will
    make only a spot - need to use wine <1.3.33)

    cs6:
    <http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25607>
    What does not
    Most of the time, when I click and drag, it will register the click,
    and draw a dot, but will not register the drag and only draw that dot.

    <http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29871>
    drawing in photoshop cs5 is almost impossible
     
    Guest, May 21, 2013
  17. Alan Browne

    Guest Guest

    except when it doesn't. complex documents often have problems, such as
    ones with tables.
    you are *very* wrong.

    os x has nothing to do with linux at all.
     
    Guest, May 21, 2013
  18. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    Doesn't need to be. ALL you need is to be able to do the bulk
    of what Office users do, and the office clones do that fine.
    Fraid not.
    Few do with Office.
    But they do work fine when the file is created in those.
    But they do work fine when the file is created in those.
    And if you want to use those, you can often use WINE.
    Which is all I ever said.

    And if you do need the real thing, it will usually do fine with Wine.
    It is for the absolute vast bulk of what people want
    to do, particularly when WINE is used when required.
    Never said anything about any 100% substitute.

    You don't even get that with the various
    incarnations of MS Office itself.
    Fraid not.
    Never said it did.
    Never said it did.
    Nope, just stating that FACT that its not VERY different.
    The reality isn't sad at all.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  19. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    Never said it was. I JUST said that its not VERY different.
    Read and comprehend sometime.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
  20. Alan Browne

    Rod Speed Guest

    No one ever said it was.
    No one ever said it was.
    Retake Comprehension 101.
     
    Rod Speed, May 21, 2013
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