NF7-S & Front USB Ports

[anthonyi]

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60 case? If so, any tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9 mobo pins is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

 

[GTD]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60 case? If so, any tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9 mobo pins is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those connectors.

 

[anthonyi]

Thanks...unfortunately the front USB case cable doesn't seem to detach in the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD light etc). I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60 case? If so, any
tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is
straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9 mobo pins is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those connectors.

 

[Chip]

"anthonyi" wrote:

Thanks...unfortunately the front USB case cable doesn't seem to detach in the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD light etc). I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on the individual pins. (8 actually, I think). Then last time the MB came out, I too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are up to USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my USB2 scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors. Works fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60 case? If so, any tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is
straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9 mobo pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any
coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with
electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was ...

 

[anthonyi]

I'll definitely try the tape idea...although I have 9 pins for sure...a group of 5 for one port and a group of 4 for the other.

The front ports on my PC60 are *supposedly* USB 2 compatible...but I don't have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy with both.

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

Thanks...unfortunately the front USB case cable doesn't seem to detach in the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD light

etc).

I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on the individual pins. (8 actually, I think). Then last time the MB came out, I too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are up

to

USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my USB2 scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors. Works fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

... mobo pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any
coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with
electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was
much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable
anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those connectors. ...

 

[Sheldon Roger]

"anthonyi" wrote:

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60 case? If so, any tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9 mobo pins is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

Finally got mine connected with a hemostat, curved tip. Invaluable for many jobs on MB. If you have a doctor friend get one from him.

 

[GTD]

Finally got mine connected with a hemostat, curved tip. Invaluable for many jobs on MB. If you have a doctor friend get one from him.

Or a Stoner, Used to use 'em as roach clips!

 

[Chip]

"anthonyi" wrote:

I'll definitely try the tape idea...although I have 9 pins for sure...a group of 5 for one port and a group of 4 for the other.

Do you mean 9 pins on the board or 9 pins from the pc60? There are only 4 wires used for a usb channel.

The front ports on my PC60 are *supposedly* USB 2 compatible...but I don't have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Yeah *supposedly*. It didn't work for me though.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy with both.

I agree with that

Chip.

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

Thanks...unfortunately the front USB case cable doesn't seem to detach in
the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD light etc).
I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

... I too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are up to
USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my USB2
scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors. Works
fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:
... so, any
tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is
straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9 mobo
pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with
electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was
much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable
anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those connectors.

 

[anthonyi]

Both case and mobo...arranged as a group of 5 and a group of 4.

You can check that this is actually the case in the NF7-S manual on the Abit website.

A

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

I'll definitely try the tape idea...although I have 9 pins for sure...a group of 5 for one port and a group of 4 for the other.

Do you mean 9 pins on the board or 9 pins from the pc60? There are only 4 wires used for a usb channel.

The front ports on my PC60 are *supposedly* USB 2 compatible...but I don't have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Yeah *supposedly*. It didn't work for me though.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy with both.

I agree with that

Chip.

... detach in
the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD light etc).
I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on the individual pins. (8 actually, I think). Then last time the MB came

out,

I
too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are up to
USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my USB2 scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors. Works fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60 case? If so, ... 9 mobo
pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those connectors.

 

[Chip]

"anthonyi" wrote:

Both case and mobo...arranged as a group of 5 and a group of 4.

You can check that this is actually the case in the NF7-S manual on the Abit website.

Thanks Anthony, but I don't need to check thank you! I have an nf7-s remember??!! ;-)

But are you saying you have 9 wires coming from your PC60's USB ports? I only have 8. White, green, black & red. X 2 = 8 wires.

What is this 9th wire you have?

Chip

A

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

I'll definitely try the tape idea...although I have 9 pins for sure...a group of 5 for one port and a group of 4 for the other.

Do you mean 9 pins on the board or 9 pins from the pc60? There are only 4 wires used for a usb channel.

The front ports on my PC60 are *supposedly* USB 2 compatible...but I don't have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Yeah *supposedly*. It didn't work for me though.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy with both.

I agree with that

Chip.

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

Thanks...unfortunately the front USB case cable doesn't seem to ... light etc).
I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on the individual pins. (8 actually, I think). Then last time the MB came out, I
too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a

charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are up
to
USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my USB2 scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors. Works fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

... If so,
any
tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9
mobo
pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't drink any
coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with
electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it was much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those

connectors.

 

[anthonyi]

Hi Chip,

The 9th wire is a second black wire...the reason I mentioned the manual is that it does have pin assignment details for 9 pins and I've connected the 9 wires from the PC60 as detailed. So it was re your comment about 4 wires per USB channel. Which mobo version do you have? When was your case purchased? Just wondering if we have slightly different variants...mine are both v2.0 mobo's and cases purchased around 3-4 months ago and the second case around 1 month ago.

I wonder if the additional wire has anything to do with USB2 compliance, either in theory or in practice?

A

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

Both case and mobo...arranged as a group of 5 and a group of 4.

You can check that this is actually the case in the NF7-S manual on the Abit website.

Thanks Anthony, but I don't need to check thank you! I have an nf7-s remember??!! ;-)

But are you saying you have 9 wires coming from your PC60's USB ports? I ... only 4
wires used for a usb channel.

The front ports on my PC60 are *supposedly* USB 2 compatible...but I don't
have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Yeah *supposedly*. It didn't work for me though.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy ...

message

Thanks...unfortunately the front USB case cable doesn't seem to
detach
in
the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD light etc).
I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on ... came out,
I
too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are up
to
USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my USB2 scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors. ... is straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the 9
mobo
pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't ... it was
much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable
anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those connectors.

...

 

[Chip]

"anthonyi" wrote:

Hi Chip,

The 9th wire is a second black wire...the reason I mentioned the manual is that it does have pin assignment details for 9 pins and I've connected the 9 wires from the PC60 as detailed. So it was re your comment about 4 wires

per

USB channel. Which mobo version do you have? When was your case purchased?

Thanks Anthony. My nf7-s does have 9 pins like yours, but my PC60 only has 8 wires.

I thought the extra pin on the mobo was just for compatibility with other USB expansion brackets that perhaps used a different pin layout... but perhaps not. My PC60 is quite old now (perhaps 2 years? Can't remember exactly). Certainly USB2 was not common when I bought it, maybe not even invented. I think the extra wire is a ground wire, probably to ground some part of the USB connector housing, in order to reduce noise. That would be my guess. I wonder is that is part of the USB2 spec and that explains why my ports won't work properly in USB2 mode?

Anyway, its really not a problem: I have only 1 USB2 device and 6 USB ports, 4 of which work fine in USB2 mode.

Cheers,

Chip.

Just wondering if we have slightly different variants...mine are both v2.0 mobo's and cases purchased around 3-4 months ago and the second case around 1 month ago.

I wonder if the additional wire has anything to do with USB2 compliance, either in theory or in practice?

A

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

Both case and mobo...arranged as a group of 5 and a group of 4. ...

the

Abit
website.

Thanks Anthony, but I don't need to check thank you! I have an nf7-s
remember??!! ;-)

But are you saying you have 9 wires coming from your PC60's USB ports? I only have 8. White, green, black & red. X 2 = 8 wires.

What is this 9th wire you have?

Chip

A

"Chip" wrote:

... I don't
have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Yeah *supposedly*. It didn't work for me though.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy with
both.

I agree with that

Chip.

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote in
message
... to detach
in
the same way as the front panel connectors (power switch, HDD
light
etc).
I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on the
individual pins. (8 actually, I think). Then last time the MB came
out,
I
too taped them together just like GTD had done. Worked like a
charm!

Just a word of caution though: I don't think the PC60's USB ports are
up
to
USB2 spec. Of course it may be just my case, but I can't get my
USB2
scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data

errors.

Works
fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi"
wrote:

Does anybody have one of these mobo's in a Lian Li PC60

case?

If
so,
any
tips on how to wire the front USB ports? The pin assignment is
straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto the
9
mobo
pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!

I have an NF7-S in a Lian Li 601, and all I can say is don't
drink
...

 

[anthonyi]

Chip,

Thanks for the info...good call, the extra wire is an additional ground wire

Cheers.

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:

Hi Chip,

The 9th wire is a second black wire...the reason I mentioned the manual is that it does have pin assignment details for 9 pins and I've connected the 9
wires from the PC60 as detailed. So it was re your comment about 4 wires per USB channel. Which mobo version do you have? When was your case

purchased?

Thanks Anthony. My nf7-s does have 9 pins like yours, but my PC60 only has 8 wires.

I thought the extra pin on the mobo was just for compatibility with other USB expansion brackets that perhaps used a different pin layout... but perhaps not. My PC60 is quite old now (perhaps 2 years? Can't remember exactly). Certainly USB2 was not common when I bought it, maybe not even invented. I think the extra wire is a ground wire, probably to ground some part of the USB connector housing, in order to reduce noise. That would be my guess. I wonder is that is part of the USB2 spec and that explains why my ports won't work properly in USB2 mode?

Anyway, its really not a problem: I have only 1 USB2 device and 6 USB ports, 4 of which work fine in USB2 mode.

Cheers,

Chip.

... v2.0 mobo's and cases purchased around 3-4 months ago and the second case around 1 month ago.

I wonder if the additional wire has anything to do with USB2 compliance, either in theory or in practice?

A

"Chip" wrote:

"anthonyi" wrote:
...

message

I'll definitely try the tape idea...although I have 9 pins for
sure...a
group of 5 for one port and a group of 4 for the other.

Do you mean 9 pins on the board or 9 pins from the pc60? There are only
4
wires used for a usb channel.

The front ports on my PC60 are *supposedly* USB 2

compatible...but

I
don't
have any USB 2 peripherals to test them with.

Yeah *supposedly*. It didn't work for me though.

Other than that: great mobo, great case. Built 2 now and very happy
with
both.

... HDD light
etc).
I'll try the tape idea.

You're right about the coffee, though!

I struggled with mine (nf7-s and PC60), fiddling about pushing on
the
individual pins. (8 actually, I think). Then last time the MB
came
out,
...

my

USB2
scanner to work properly off the front ports - I get data errors.
Works
fine on the onbboard ports and the supplied bracket though.

Chip

"GTD" wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "anthonyi" ... assignment is
straightforward but getting the 9 individual connectors onto
the
9
mobo
pins
is damn' near impossible!

Is there any sort of intermediate connector I could use?

Thanks!
... don't drink
any
coffee beforehand. Actually, I taped mine into a bundle with electrical tape, basically making it into a single plug, and it
was
much easier. If the pc60 is like the 601, you can detach the cable
anout halfway, which makes it easier to tape up those
connectors.

...