In message <lkq8tr$rpo$[email][/email]>\n[QUOTE]\nYea, that's what my upstream ISP does, along with most others.[/QUOTE]\n\nNot just ISPs, either.\n\nMany small businesses have two connections to the Internet and a router\nthat splits the traffic. A decent load balancing/bonding router costs\nless than 00.\n[QUOTE]\nIt's been longer for me, but I doubt anyone has gotten less secretive\nabout it. I looked a bit, but couldn't find any publicly available\ninfo. One thing I do recall was going from a customer to a peer was\nessentially impossible. That might have changed. Heh.[/QUOTE]\n\nI doubt it. Peering arrangements have *always* been completely secret\nunless the peering was between public institutions.\n\nBack in the days before SMTP, email addresses showed the peering. For\nexample, my 'bang path' was\n\n....!apple!ucsc!ucscb!kreme\n\nwhich meant "First, you have to get to Apple. From there, Apple will\nroute the email to the University of California at Santa Cruz, which\nwill send it to the machine named ucscb, which will route it to the user\n'kreme'. Apple and UCSC were peers.\n\nSomeone at, say, Dartmouth, would have to send an email to me with and\naddress something like:\n\nathene!dartmouth!apple!ucsc!ucscb!kreme\n\nwhile someone at Harvard might have to do something like\n\napollo!harvard!mit!ucb!apple!ucsc!ucscb!kreme\n\nSo, not only did you need to know someone's address, but you had to\nmanually specify the route.\n\nIf one of the machines (or more) was connecting via UUCP, email could\ntake days. Sometimes many days. Sometimes more days than putting a stamp\non a letter and dropping it in a mailbox.\n\n-\-\nNot that I condone fascism, or any -ism for that matter. -Ism's in my\nopinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should\nbelieve in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in The\nBeatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was The\nWalrus. I could be The Walrus and I'd still have to bum rides off of\npeople.