?? OEM parts inferior to Retail parts

Discussion in 'Dell' started by scooby, Oct 26, 2003.

  1. scooby

    scooby Guest

    The www.velocitymicro.com website claims OEM parts are inferior to
    Retail parts.

    Is this true?

    See below from http://www.velocitymicro.com/retail_vs_oem.php :

    "All computer chips are produced in volume on large silicon wafers,
    then individual chips are trimmed from the wafer and used to make
    complete components, such as PentiumĀ® processors, graphics cards,
    modems, network cards, or motherboard chipsets.

    In every production yield of chips, from Pentium processors to video
    chips or modem controllers, some chips simply run faster or perform
    better. It's just how the silicon formed in the wafer. Manufacturers
    must test every single chip to determine it's capabilities, and sort
    the products into different classes or categories.

    The best performing parts demand premium pricing, and are typically
    packaged in a retail box with beautiful graphics and shrink wrap to be
    sold in computer stores at the higher markup. The slowest or poorest
    performers demand a lower price, and are sold in bulk to the large
    Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM's), who can claim to be using
    the same part or model of product as the retail boxed product, but
    actually they have a lesser version.

    This is the dirty little secret the larger manufacturers don't want
    the consumer to know. The only time the big guys use the premium parts
    is when they are submitting systems to be tested or reviewed by a
    computer magazine. Those computers get all retail parts, plus
    hand-built assembly and tweaking to get the best possible test results
    in the magazine review.

    Wouldn't it be fantastic if consumers could get a hand-built computer
    with premium boxed components instead of OEM parts? You can! Velocity
    Micro builds every single VELOCITY Series computer as if it were going
    to be shipped to a computer magazine for review, but the real review
    comes from our customer when they boot our system.

    We use many retail boxed components because they offer so many
    advantages over OEM parts, even though they cost a premium. "
    scooby, Oct 26, 2003
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  2. Ask yourself the Questions:-
    1 Who wrote it??
    2 Was it by an unbiased Author or was it by someone promoting a Product?
    3 What Product were they promoting??

    Also ask yourself:-
    1 What percentage of Computer Parts go to the OEM Market? (Make a guess
    - 70%, 80%, 90%??)
    2 Does it seem likely that 80%+ (guess) of components are slow or poor

    The reason why Retail items are a lot dearer is simply because they are
    sold in ones & twos, they require a fancy box & they require a lot of
    printed information, as well as a large support set-up!!

    Just my two-pence worth!!

    John J. Burness, Oct 26, 2003
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  3. This statement is both true and false.

    Intel and others manufacturers indeed test their chips under various
    conditions of temperature and clock speeds. The better ones are considered
    to be of military grade and are sold as such to militaries and industries
    with harsh operating conditions. The next ones are for industries with are
    less stringent but nonetheless have special conditions.

    But for the bulk of people, the ordinary grade is sufficient and a chip
    which is guaranted by Intel (and others manufacturers) to be properly
    working at its specified clock speed under normal operating conditions will
    do it. If the tests show that a CPU is unable to substain its nominative
    speed, then Intel will usually downgrade it to a lower speed, for exemple
    from 2.8 to 2.6GHz, but in no case will Intel sell it at its unreliable
    speed with a lower price.

    If the problem come from a restricted temperature range of operation, then
    yes, Intel may sell it at a lower cost to a less scrupulous retailer.

    But unless you are planning to overclock your CPU and/or lower the speed of
    the fans to make them less noisy, you shouldn't see any difference beetween
    the various grades and the OEMs should be as fine as the retail versions
    and, in fact, the OEM that you will buy will be usually of the same quality
    as the retail boxes.

    When the CPU in a PC stop because its sensors detect a too high temperature,
    the problem come from the various cooling devices, not from the CPU itself.
    After all, when the sensors inside a PC detect a overheat problem, they will
    stop any CPU which may be installed, whatever it is a OEM or a retail CPU.

    Unless you are overclocking, a faulty CPU is a very rare problem.

    S. L.
    Sylvain Lafontaine, Oct 26, 2003
  4. scooby

    Joan Guest

    The last paragraph tells it all. Use many ... not ALL. I buy OEM hard
    drives from Western Digital and Seagate. The only difference between
    OEM and Retail are installation disks and cables/rails (Dell has extra
    rails attached in case) and you can download software from Mfg. site.

    Strange, my Dim 8300 (refurbished) P4 3.0 with 128 meg ATI Radeon 9800
    OEM video card after installing latest drivers from ATI site indicates
    in the device manager it is now a radeon 9800 Pro and this system and
    video card plays the game Halo perfectly. Maybe the only difference in
    Video Cards and Sound cards (retail) is you get extra software and some

    If I buy retail, I want to register with the Mfg. This velcocitymicro
    site doesn't even tell me much about about the system I'm getting or
    decent size pictures of what the internal of the system looks like, but
    oh so eloquent about how the systems is put together and tested.
    Joan, Oct 26, 2003
  5. scooby

    lhorwinkle Guest

    Yeah sure.
    And Listerine cures colds.
    And Colgate whitens 57% better.
    And if you drink Bud Lite you'll get laid more.
    Do you believe those?
    lhorwinkle, Oct 26, 2003
  6. scooby

    difference Guest

    How about the differences between OEM and Retail sw? They are more
    substantial and obvious. Try Dell XP and Retail XP.
    difference, Oct 26, 2003
  7. scooby

    WSZsr Guest

    Yes, no difference at all.
    WSZsr, Oct 26, 2003
  8. scooby

    Tom Almy Guest

    Dell XP has an added module that bypasses product activation when fresh
    installed on a system with a Dell BIOS. Other than that, there is no
    Tom Almy, Oct 26, 2003
  9. you mean the lack of the box with the dell/oem windows xp software?
    Christopher Muto, Oct 28, 2003
  10. scooby

    George Guest

    Pure BS. Manufacturers do test and sort parts based on the speed they will
    run at. That is why you see 2.4 GHz and 3.06 GHz Pentium 4s...you didn't
    really think they made different masks for each speed did you? Assuming the
    speed rating is the same, you are buying equivalent quality. What IS
    different between OEM and consumer products is packaging, accessories
    included, and support. Most consumer products assume the consumer isn't
    savvy enough to properly and adequately dissipate heat from the CPU so that
    is done for the consumer and the consumer pays for that convenience. Also,
    consumer products are in ESD packaging INSIDE a box that is shrink wrapped,
    so you should be fairly certain (there are heat shrink tunnels for sale on
    eBay) on how the CPU was handled. Finally, you are paying (in the case of
    the consumer product) for a longer warranty and it is provided by the CPU
    manufacturer. Most OEM parts have no warranty except whatever the seller
    decides to provide so that he can move the product at a price somewhat close
    to that of the consumer product.
    George, Oct 28, 2003
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