Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the

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Is anyone else annoyed by this cloud force?
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I use the iCloud for sync on several things so it is an annoyance over
where Apple may be taking things rather than annoyance at the current
state of things.

 

As I was already using iCloud to sync those features, it doesn't bother
me.

Incidentally, it doesn't force you to use iCloud, just some supported
method of online syncing. Choose your poison, e.g. iCloud or Google, an
Exchange server, or you can run your own CalDAV and CardDAV servers to
host the syncing.

I've seen two people on Macintouch claim that USB syncing still works as
long as iCloud is disabled (they didn't specify whether iCloud was
disabled on the iOS device, the Mac, or both). I haven't tried, and I
can't see how that is possible as Mavericks dropped Sync Services, which
is what iTunes was previously using to sync data with Calendar and
Contacts.

It seems unlikely that Apple would go to the trouble of implementing a
new USB sync mechanism in iTunes just for those not using iCloud, and
then not tell anyone about it.

 

apple has a tech note saying it's not supported at all.

 

Nope. I basically never connect my iOS devices to my computer since
iCould.

 

Ant:

No, I find cloud syncing to be most convenient. Three users, five Macs,
three iPads, three iPhones, several iPods. Any user can be on the road
with any device and everything syncs quickly. Especially handy for
calendars so that all users can keep track of scheduled events and
avoid scheduling conflicts. To have to carry a portable device to a Mac
and sync data via a wire would be soooo last century.

 

Dear Alan and friends:

I have a question about iCloud Contact sync, maybe you can answer it.

At home, we have only one Mac and each of the four family members have a
Contact Group defined on it. And all of us sync only the Contact Group
belonging to him/her through USB, so on each iOS device we get the Contact
Group belonging to his/her owner only.

Is it possible to do the same using iCloud sync, or all the iOS devices of
each family member will receive and sync the four Contact Groups?

Thanks a lot in advance.

 

I hope someone will answer this for you. I've had such mixed and
inconsistent results with iCloud sync (single user) that I wouldn't even
guess at your situation.

 

I don't like the idea of the Cloud belong the only option.

Maybe I won't get a Mac after all, my Win system does still work just fine
for what I do.

Hopefully, by the time both companies ruin things too much, I won't be
caring that much anymore anyways.
bj
(Ok, I know, I'm an old fogey)

 

Ant:

OK. À chacun son goût, n'est-ce pas?

Why would you even consider getting a Mac if Windows is working for you?

Your belief that change equals ruin would tend to support that.

 

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5460803 (lots of angry and upset
posts) and
https://www.change.org/petitions/apple-bring-the-100-offline-sync-for-ios-back
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I also submitted a Bug Reporter (https://bugreport.apple.com/) ticket to
have local sync(hronization) features back in 10.9+.
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All your data are belong to us.

We are on our way back to before the sledgehammer toss. Full speed
behind!

 

Apple does not seem to agree with you.
They think the cloud is the cat's pajamas.
They're certainly very pleased with themselves over it,

Things can change, and I'm just considering options & "what-ifs".

I'm certainly not eager to tackle the learning of new systems & application
software I'd need to use . OTOH MS makes changes too, and if I were to have
to acquire & learn a bunch of new stuff (my current system isn't immortal,
after all) I might as well consider a system that meshes well with my
mobile devices.

But if Apple is going to make it difficult as well, I'll need to rethink
how I approach those options.

Judging by the extended forum thread on the subject that someone posted a
link to, I'm not the only person who for one reason or another prefers not
to *have to* use the cloud for syncing content. (I hadn't realized they'd
already taken away notes syncing but I do have a viable solution for that,
if not as convenient as the built-in-app.)

I'm certainly thinking about how I'm going to manage when Apple ditches
local-sync of info for Windows as well. They have a touching confidence
that everyone has not only constant cloud access but limitless data plans
as well.

I realize that the current "rush to the cloud" is here to stay. It does
remind me a bit of the not-that-old days of everything on the company LAN
-- when it went down you couldn't do anything; if it crashed & lost data,
you were screwed.
bj

 

Davoud:

No, they do agree. Rather, I agree with them. The cloud is the way to
go for synching media, contacts, mail, calendars, and what-have-you
among multiple devices. What am I to do, carry my desktop Macs around
the house when I want to sync them? Run home from a long trip when I
want to sync my iPhone?

 

Yes. I have an iPod Classic, which Apple seems to have forgotten that
they still sell. With Mavericks, all of my contacts and calendars were
deleted from it and I can't put them back on. It sucks.

 

Am 28.10.2013 17:20, schrieb Todd Allcock:

Your decision.

And I think that there are still many people out there (many more than
you think), that would rather not put anything into any cloud - least
any private information. Might be different in the US, but in Europe
e.g. mentalities may differ quite a lot from the ones in the US. And the
latest discussions about the NSA (and others) spying on basically
everybody don't help here either...

Best regards,

Michael

 

Michael Eyd:

Wow! That means no web surfing, no e-mail, no USENET, no Internet full
stop--because it all puts personal stuff on the the remote servers that
we have come to call "the cloud."

Everybody? Really? Europeans are so poor at basic arithmetic that they
think that NSA can spy on /everybody/ ? Or Europeans' egos are so
puffed up that they think (hope?) that they are important enough to
draw the attention of the U.S. Intelligence Community? Wrong again.

 

Is the current assumption that everyone with any device now has full- time
cloud access anywhere on the planet? Not true.

 

Yet another "up"grade I'm fortunate not to be able to install, I see.