As I mentioned, I said I'd try IMAP again to see if the alleged \nimprovements in Apple Mail and Gmail IMAP were true. Or at least \nuseful. So into the breach - I've been using it since Sunday evening.\n\nWhile IMAP works fine, it creates a distraction in that items that are \nautomatically trashed (spam, etc) on the Google Mail server are now \nvisible in Apple mail as a growing badge count in Trash. A distraction \nand no clear way to eliminate that. When I trash spam (etc) on Google's \nserver but otherwise use POP for access, then that trash is not visible \nin Apple Mail on my Mac. So I don't see it, I don't have to clear it.\n\n(Note that I have Apple mail set to not show a count of unopened mail \nthat I trash automatically. That works fine for all the POP accounts, \nbut for IMAP it seems immune - if that alone were fixed on the Apple \nMail side, all would be fine).\n\nAlso some strange behaviour wrt to archived mails on Gmail occasionally \npopping into view in the archive folder in Gmail.\n\nSo, as I (and a few others) keep saying, there are situations where IMAP \nis not appropriate (or Golidlocksian "just right") for home users and \nthis is one of them.\n\nBack to POP (which requires mild subterfuge in Apple Mail for Google \naccounts).