Re Ben Myers

Just checked back through the postings and the last post from Ben was on the
30th December 2010.

Bruce

 

Looks like everyone is moving on (where to?). I hope that's what's up
with Ben and that it's not something more serious.


George

 

I emailed Ben and he returned one quickly. He has been very busy
working and had problems with his newsreader (and did not find time
for a replacement). He should be back in a week or two.

 

Just now, I subscribed to the Dell group thru Google. Has to be more
stable than Thunderbird, which was serious disappointment, so I
stopped using it. Kept crashing... Ben

 

Hmm, what OS and platform? I've been running it for many years and no
crashes that were not a result of a screw up on my part.

 

"Ben Myers" wrote in message

Just now, I subscribed to the Dell group thru Google. Has to be more
stable than Thunderbird, which was serious disappointment, so I
stopped using it. Kept crashing... Ben

Ben,

Pleased to hear you are OK and nothing more than software problems

Bruce

 

In

I've used Thunderbird since v1.5 and I still dislike it. The only reason
why I use it because there are portable versions and on Linux, it isn't
as bad as the others. Here are some complains I have about Thunderbird.

- No show replies to my posts (CTRL-H)
- Header view doesn't update highlighted one while moving through
messages
- Global filters never worked
- F, B, N, and P keys are stupid for jumping from one message to
another. Arrow keys has been around for 30 years now, why not use them?
- Can't view any messages while it is downloading headers
- No sorting for subscribed newsgroups (folder pane)
- Abbreviates newsgroups which is hard to tell which is which
- Marking a post with a star is very hard to see the star
- No global signature, must set it up for every sever
- Offline you can download none or all, no other options
- Terrible on 800x480 screens (especially in editing)

 

This, at least, can be fixed by installing the "Manually Sort Folders"
extension.

A theme change might help here.

 

Ben, Great to see you back.
The trick I use with Thunderbird is to avoid Version 3.* like the
plague. I'm running Version 2.0.0.24 on XP, Vista, and Windows 7 with no
problems.

Frank

 

One item that I have never heard of. But easy to set up through an add in

can be changed in the advanced settings

Mine work fine, might be the way you set them up

Don't use hot-keys myself but I believe those are Linux normal keys IE:
F- forward, B- back, N- Next unread, P- previous unread

Must be due to the speed of your download I can read messages while it
downloads headers just fine.

sort folders extension allows this.
OR
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. Go to the "News" folder in your profile folder.
3. Make a temporary backup copy of the "<account-name>.rc" file

Easy to switch in the configuration editor so you can read the entire
newsgroup.
user_pref ("mail.server.default.abbreviate", false);

can be changed in themes

Depends on how you set it up during install. However I use different
ones for different accounts anyway.

Don't use offline so I don't know.

VERY strange resolution, what are you using?

 

You're referring to Tom Scales who most of us suspected was a Dell
plant for many years?

And who disappeared overnight because his paymasters assigned him to a
different task?

I don't think Ben is in that type of category.

 

No, no, no . . . I didn't even know anything about the incident you
mentioned. A lot of veteran members of online communities I belong to
have left in recent years because of health issues. I merely was
hoping that Ben didn't fall into that category, and I was quite happy
to hear that he wasn't\isn't.



George

 

All these nice folks giving you advice on TB and no feedback? What's
up Bill?

 

Yeah things are not going well with TB Bob. Why do you ask?

 

what is TB ?

 

T-Bird.

 

In

Mozilla Thunderbird. It is a free email and newsgroup reader. It is a
Netscape open source spin off.

 

Ann,cmplx80,and Steve made suggestions on TB...and you did not
respond. That is all.

 

In

I am still working on TB Bob. The most important is first on the list
(Show Replies to my Messages). And that one bugs me the most. And using
TB for four years it still doesn't work correctly. The best I could get
TB to do is to flag my posts (through filters) as a watched thread and
that is all. That is a start, but I want to see replies to my posts and
TB doesn't understand this. Yet all of the info is all in the headers.

Also TB seems like it uses a single thread for everything. Yes probably
not so, but it freezes a lot of the time. Like when it is downloading
headers, most of the time the hour glass shows and you can't do
anything. It even hangs the XP keyboard buffer until it is done. Only
poorly written programs do that.

TB I can't run a filter (aka rule) manually on a newsgroup. As the
option is always grayed out. Thus if you want a filter existing headers,
you can't. You must download all of the headers all over again and then
it works. Some of my newsgroups have over 100,000 headers. Even with
broadband, it takes awhile. If you use dialup, better let it run all
night just for a single newsgroup.

I admit that OE6 is far from perfect. And OE-QuoteFix helps OE out a
lot. But what OE does right, it is far superior to anything else I have
ever used. Too bad it doesn't run under Linux, Vista or Windows 7
though. ;-)

 

Tuberculosis.