Discussion in 'Apple' started by abpp, Jun 17, 2005.

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    abpp Guest

    I here by call to all TRUE Mac users to demand the immediate
    resignation of Steve Jobs. His stupid decision to change the Mac
    platform from a clear superior microprocessor to an inferior and
    old-designed one will destroy the Mac platform, if not the demise of
    Apple as a hardware maker. Please, make Steve Jobs understand that just
    because a chip provider doesn't abide by his extravagant demands as
    fast as he wants, he should not change a whole platform to an inferior

    Steve Jobs is not a CEO that can be trusted. Since he came back to
    Apple he always told us (and showed us) that PowerPC is superior than
    x86, and now he is just ignoring the truth. His egomaniac
    Bill-Gates-want-to-be attitute will put Apple and the Mac platform in
    jeaopardy and danger.

    The soul of the Mac Platrform is not just the OS. It is all, the
    Hardware, the Software, and the users; all unique and special.
    abpp, Jun 17, 2005
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    Jim Polaski Guest

    Try thinking for a change. While the PPC has more legs, the fact that
    IBM can't supply them, isn't interested in higher clock speeds and isn't
    speeding towards a cooler running chip for laptops was the death blow
    and not something Apple could control and SJ either. Out of SJ's
    hands...if you think he was going to bully IBM, you're sadly wrong.
    Jim Polaski, Jun 17, 2005
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  3. I am a true Mac user and I don't care who makes the chip inside my Mac,
    as long as it's not Microsoft.

    I don't know how you come to your conclusion that the Mac platform will
    be destroyed if an Intel chip is used instead of an IBM one.

    Paul Anderson, Jun 17, 2005
  4. Hey, trollboy! As an Apple Shareholder and Mac user at home, I love
    the move and look to even better performance of Apple's stock in the


    "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

    -James Nachtwey-
    John A. Stovall, Jun 17, 2005
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    Davoud Guest

    How about if I just *PLONK* you, instead?
    Davoud, Jun 17, 2005
  6. Oh, go buzz off, troll. You obviously don't know what the f you're
    talking about.
    Michelle Steiner, Jun 17, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Actually, it's probably on a par with finding out that PPC chips were
    made by IBM.

    Intel have never been the baddies here, just MicroSoft.
    Andy Hewitt, Jun 17, 2005
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    Paul Olson Guest

    As ANOTHER shareholder, i second the motion.
    Paul Olson, Jun 17, 2005
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    Ilgaz Ocal Guest

    Intel is controlled by Microsoft. AMD is controlled by Microsoft. No
    conspiracy here: Whoever dominates desktop x86, dominates those
    companies desktop chips too.

    Xeon is a different story,its a server chip.

    Lets not dream, Microsoft isn't going anywhere, BillG will break
    virtualpc sales record when mactel ships.

    Replying to this topic doesn'T make me support that stupid request BTW,
    Steve Jobs fired from Apple? lol

    Ilgaz Ocal, Jun 18, 2005
  10. Down with the Jobs, go with the Woz!
    Thundercleets, Jun 18, 2005
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    yarmfelder Guest

    Apple lost its way years ago. I dumped them in 1995,
    when Linux became usable. Never looked back.

    Although the NeXT box was very cool. But Steve
    screwed that up too by refusing to sell to students,
    academics, and individuals. He insisted on selling
    only to businesses and in bulk deals to colleges.

    OS/X is nowhere near as smooth as NeXT OS.
    What is accomplished using only a 68030 processor
    was amazing.
    yarmfelder, Jun 18, 2005
  12. It's not what Jobs wants, but what the user community wants. The
    user community wants a G5 PowerBook and faster G5 towers. IBM could
    not produce the chips that the Mac community wanted.

    While I'm not thrilled with the x86 switch, but I don't see where
    Apple had much choice.
    Sticking with a processor line that could not meet the demands of the
    user community would kill Apple faster than any switch to Intel chips.
    OS X is not going to run on generic x86 hardware.

    Stephen M. Adams, Jun 18, 2005
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    calcerise Guest

    Eight to five it will. Indeed from what I understand it does right now.
    calcerise, Jun 18, 2005
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    Randy Howard Guest

    It will what?

    It does what right now?

    Zero-context in your follow up means we get to guess what you
    are replying to above.
    Randy Howard, Jun 18, 2005
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    Tim Guest

    Dude get a damn life. You know, get away from the computer and go
    outside? Get a real girlfriend, and not one of those blowup dolls?
    The things people post's amazing common sense hasn't killed
    you yet.
    Tim, Jun 18, 2005
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    abpp Guest

    All that "IBM cannot supply" crap is just that, crap. IBM was being
    offered more business with the consoles and obviously they
    will put more effort on those chips. IBM offered Apple/Jobs to move
    to one of those PPC chips (that are faster and better designed), but
    in his infinite arrogance didn't want to use "the other guys'" chips.
    you know what, now he will use THE OTHER IDIOTS' chips (x86). Screw
    We all trusted him and he betrayed the Mac. The Mac now is nothing but
    PC with an Apple OS. I'm so glad that Linux is getting better and
    FULLY commited to the PPC!
    abpp, Jun 18, 2005
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    abpp Guest

    You don't see it??!!

    Now the Mac will be nothing but a PC with an Apple OS!!

    Let's take a look at the possibilities once Intel is inside:

    1) What about Macs running Windows (possible even after what Jobs said)

    2) PCs running Mac OS (as you know they will)

    3) PC clone makers making Macs-like clones (possible even after what
    Jobs said)

    4) Apple lossing money when people don't see the need to buy an Apple
    when they can get a PC that runs Mac OS (as you know they will)

    5) Macs suffering in graphics processing without AltiVec (as you know)

    6) Mac programming code becoming more bloated because Intel code is

    etc, etc, etc...

    Need more??
    abpp, Jun 18, 2005
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    abpp Guest

    Intel is Microsoft and Microsoft is Intel. They have lived a symbiotic
    relation for so long that now there is no difference! Every Intel chip
    made in the last 7 years was basically co-design by Microsoft thanks to
    the Microsoft Windows Hardware Engineering Conferences. Can you imagine
    the access Microsoft and its cronies (Dell, HP, Gateway, etc.) will
    to the Mac internals to poop on!!
    abpp, Jun 18, 2005
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    abpp Guest

    Let see how much that stock will worth in 4 years when Apple
    realize that they can no longer sell hardware but only some
    abpp, Jun 18, 2005
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    abpp Guest

    Well, he was fired once, wasn't he!

    abpp, Jun 18, 2005
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