RFD: remove comp.sys.mac.announce moderated

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Jim Riley, Apr 28, 2007.

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    [This is a copy of the RFD of a proposal to remove the moderated
    newsgroup comp.sys.mac.announce. If you wish to comment on this
    proposal, you may do so in news.groups.proposals, and the Followup-To
    header, has been set accordingly]

    remove comp.sys.mac.announce

    This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
    newsgroup comp.sys.mac.announce.

    RATIONALE: remove comp.sys.mac.announce

    The last approved article was in March 2000. Over the last 5 years of
    activity, approvals were increasingly infrequent (10, 6, 3, 1, and 1
    for the years 1996 to 2000, respectively).

    Alternatively to removal, the group could be assigned a new moderator.
    Kathy Morgan has volunteered to moderate if there is interest in
    reviving the group.

    As an announcement group, conversion to an unmoderated status is not


    The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.announce was created as part of a
    re-organization of the comp.sys.mac (CSM) hierarchy in March 1990 that
    created CSM.announce, CSM.apps, CSM.comm, CSM.games, CSM.system, and
    CSM.wanted, and renamed comp.sys.mac to CSM.misc.

    The comp.sys.mac hierarchy had its origin with the creation of the
    unmoderated net.micro.mac in November 1984, and the moderated
    mod.computers.mac in October 1985. mod.computers.mac was renamed to
    mod.mac in March 1986. During the Great Renaming, net.micro.mac was
    renamed to comp.sys.mac and mod.mac was renamed to

    Three groups, CSM.hypercard, CSM.hardware, and CSM.programmer were
    added in October 1987, March 1988, and October 1989, respectively.
    Frustration with the piecemeal addition of newsgroups led to the
    invention of the multi-group re-organization that resulted in creation
    of 7 groups, including CSM.announce in March 1990.

    Additional hierarchy changes include:

    CSM.datatbases created in January 1992.
    CSM.advocacy created in September 1992.
    CSM.oop.macapp3 and CSM.oop.misc created in November 1992.
    CSM.oop.tcl in April 1993.
    CSM.portables created in April 1993.
    CSM.scitech created in May 1993.
    CSM.graphics created in November 1993.
    CSM.programmer.codewarrior created in August 1994.
    CSM.programmer (CSMP) split into CSMP.help, CSMP.info, CSMP.misc,
    and CSMP.tools in November 1994.
    CSM.hardware (CSMH) split into CSMH.misc, CSMH.storage, and
    CSMH.video, and CSM.printing in April 1995.
    CSM.games (CSMG) split into CSMG.action, CSMG.adventure,
    CSMG.announce, CSMG.flight-sim, CSMG.marketplace, CSMG.misc, and
    CSMG.strategic in May 1995.
    CSM.programmer.games created in October 1995.
    CSM.oop.powerplant in March 1996.

    From the time of its creation in March 1990 until late 1995,
    comp.sys.mac.announce had roughly 5 to 10 approved articles per month.
    Beginning in late 1995, approvals became increasingly infrequent, with
    only a total of 5 approvals from 1998 to 2000. The last approval was
    in March 2000.


    The newsgroup line is:

    comp.sys.mac.announce Important notices for Macintosh users.

    The charter (extracted from the CFV):

    Designed to be a low-volume, high-content group for distribution of
    information, regular postings (like the "where to find...", and
    "introduction to comp.sys.mac" documents, postings like virus alerts
    and other forms of information (product announcements? press
    releases?) to be determined.


    The full group removal procedure is documented here:


    Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
    should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the
    relevant threads in that newsgroup.

    To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to

    All discussion of active proposals should be posted to

    If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the
    discussion may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken
    to ensure that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as


    This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:


    The proponent will also post pointers to:



    Jim Riley <>


    2007-04-27 1st RFD
    Jim Riley, Apr 28, 2007
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