I admitted no such thing. I installed it to see what it would do. It is now perfectly obvious that you are a troll.[/QUOTE] And Safari 4 is BETA software. Of course it needs tweaking. That seems to be overlook by the whiners. After all this discussion I installed Safari 4.0b on my iBook (10.4.11) and thus far i am favorably impressed. It's clearly faster at rendering Web pages than Firefox or Camino or Safari 3.2.1, although playback on Hulu was choppy and unwatchable. YouTube's a little choppy but watchable. i haven't tried my bank yet. I'm going to play with it for a while to see if I still like it once I get over the shiny new toy syndrome.
No. If you decide you no longer support PPC, then tweak a parameter in the build script and presto, every OS from then on is about 60% the former size. If you want to support them still, add a very tiny bit of code to the installer, that asks the user which architectures to install. They don't care about either one--they care about sales. Nevertheless, for more than a decade, they have treated me far better than Microsoft has ever done. -- Wes Groleau Change is inevitable. We need to learn that "inevitable" is neither a synonym for "good" nor for "bad." -- WWG
Stupid question. I did stick to iTunes 6.0.5 on my iMac G3 which still runs fine w/ Tiger and all other updates. When iTunes came with Cover Flow it became very slow so I ignored updates. Like the OP said: stick with the original software that came with your Mac and keep your system as lean and mean as possible. You know, with all this new "bling" and "bloat" software precious hard disk real estate it taken up. All these 20 Kb meta data files that the new Mac software produce take up 1 Mb blocks of space, which is a waste. And your hard disk becomes a ginormous Swiss Cheese. Ever tried to securely remove an iPhoto Library? Thousands of files you never knew existed are deleted (taking a long time too). Also, I think Apple should give users the option to remove printer files you don't need on a pre-installed system. They take up several Gb of space you never need (removing them yourself can lead to problems). So, IMO, the OS and software should be as efficient and as lean as possible. SK.
Yes, that is what I meant. I don't know that I would send a feature request about a fully released application, but I certainly would about a beta.
Why not send one about a fully released application? After all, the software company will probably be producing a new version in due order.
Thanks. Finally someone who has real knowledge about how things work. The fact that the new update will change more files than ever is reason enough to be careful. I hope it will put right more bugs than it makes.
I admitted no such thing. I installed it to see what it would do. It is now perfectly obvious that you are a troll.[/QUOTE] Well, you don't know a thing about computers. You sound like one of those computer sellers, who'd never tell you about possible problems to solve. You don't see things from the customers' side, and you never admit you're wrong. You are the troll. Nobody ever learns anything from you.
This is all theory. Practice is that with each major update some users are left with trouble. One example is iWeb3, which seems to have ditched some code so that now fonts are rendered useless, the rss feed is faulty, in short iWeb3 has become useless. It has some useful additions like widgets, but when people can't get it working properly with blogs, comments and podcasts, it simply means the end of iWeb for many of us. It is as simple as that. If each time you add a post, you have to check whether the rss feed has the correct images, and each time you have to put them right, then whatever bling you add will not be able to improve the overall performance. It's junk.
Firefox is still the best browser. If we allow S4 greater speed, then that is fine, but it is not my priority. This is not a race contest. I want user friendliness, dependability, no bling. In S4 it's especially the Apple sites that load very slowly. Have you checked how fast it is with security settings, no allowing of third-party cookies? You will see S4 slows down very much. Have you looked at S4 with the Develop menu? Seen how many mistakes there are in the Apple sites? Apple is adding bling and flashy thingies, but it is not better in practical use. That is why I prefer Firefox. Top Sites is ridiculous when you already have a menu bar with all your favourites. The menu bar is much easier and quicker, though it doesn't look so flashy. No, S4 is again for the Apple groupies who'd buy anything with an Apple logo on. Fortunately this one is free. Of course no one will dare to tell the result here of their speed with all bells and whistles on, because the speed of S4 will be a lot less than advertised. The previous speed increase was a hoax as well. Removing the loading bar was very clever too.
For the simple reason that this group is for messages like that. This is not a groupie group, though it very much looks like it. In a free world people should have the right to say that Safari 4 is more bling than anything else. Just admit that most people won't even use the Top Sites. It's fancy fair. It's for the amateur, the silly people. How many people use the cover flow in iTunes? It's there for bling, to impress someone when you show them your new iMac. When they are gone you set it back to list view or something. That is reality.
Thanks, SK. This is precisely the point. Bling slows down your mac. So if they want to improve speed they should stop adding bling that is using up time, space and processor use. Some Apple groupies have turned into real trolls, who don't allow any reasonable discussion of the pros and cons. They just swallow everything that is pushed down their throats. A computer is there to provide secure, smooth working. And apps some parts of which are practically useless or unsafe, like blogs, podcasts and comments in iWeb3 are a shame for Apple. The fact that the whole nation is now installing the S4 tweaks proves that Apple went a bridge too far.
Also note that Safari 4 beta won't install on the current 10.5.7 build... http://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/26/apple-prepping-os-x-10-5-7-update/ SK.
That has me wondering what is happening at Apple's. People also confuse the speed of loading a particular page with speed of use. Many pages load slower in Safari4, in particular Apple pages, some pages don't load at all. The forum discussions on S4 show that for some people S4 is causing serious trouble. Even reverting to S3 will not solve their problem. This may have to do with the changed systemframeworks which remain changed even after reinstalling the old app. It also seems that Wacom tablets don't work properly with the new tabs. But then again there are people who claim that you shouldn't use tablets for browsing. All those people always shouting 'OOH, great' and 'AAH, wonderful' with every update are not helpful at all, on the contrary, if Apple listens to them the system will slowly deteriorate and give up efficiency for bling. I for one think that the speed increase in S4 is cosmetic and has nothing to do with the real speed of using the Safari browser. But let's assume it is faster, what matters is the usefulness of the browser and its integration with other things. And I don't like the idea that Apple with each update is messing around with the systemframeworks. At least they should give us more information about what is being changed and why.
Right. Example- I installed the Safari Tweaks menu and turned off "Tabs on Top". I then replaced the original Menu.nib but the tqbs stayed on the bottom. I uninstalled the program and then reinstalled it. Still no tabs on top. I had to reinstall the tweaks menu and check off "Tabs on Top" again to get the original S4 back.
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