[QUOTE]\nI still disagree that its the responsibility of the ISP. Every new computer\nmade in the last couple years comes with a manual that contains such\nwarnings. But most people dont read the manuals, and thats not the ISP's\nfault. A good sales person (of these new systems to first time, or\ninexperienced buyers) would impart such warnings as well. Whether the buyer\nwill heed them or not is up to them.[/QUOTE]\n\nWhen was the last time you saw a "good" salesperson at BestBuy or\nCircuit City or any other chain store? I've never met one.\n\nI have also never seen a warning document come with ISP service and not\nwith the computers either. They can include a very nice, large, color,\ndocument on how to connect the cables, they could easily create a large\nRED/ORANGE document explaining security too.\n[QUOTE]\nI believe the responsibililty falls squarely on the consumer and no where\nelse.[/QUOTE]\n\nWhen the individual consumers impact the other consumers of the shared\nresource it's the responsibility of the ISP to control the problem - in\nthe case of the ISP, if they would just enable NAT as the default in\ntheir devices, it would eliminate about 90%+ of the common security\nproblems that ignorant users cause/experience. If someone knows enough\nto as for a NON-NAT config they are very likely to also know how to\nprotect it.\n\nIf NAT was the default, things like the Slammer worm would not have had\nmuch impact on the Net or users.