somebody discuss G5 or 10.2.7 issues already!!!

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Ercole Olivario, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. Cheese, already! It's September 8! And looking at this newsgroup,
    you'd think the G5 hadn't been released yet!

    Somebody, somewhere give me some idea of how these machines behave!
    Any kernel panics? What is your boot time? Any differences between
    10.2.6 and 10.2.7 besides running on G5's? Can somebody post the Apple
    System Profiler output from a G5, perhaps even a Dual 2.0?

    EO
     
    Ercole Olivario, Sep 8, 2003
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  2. Yeah, I've been waiting for the whining too, but there's NONE. I'm not
    sure what that means. Are the new owners' systems so screwed up they
    can't get on-line? Or are there... NO PROBLEMS??? nah, couldn't be.
     
    Howard S Shubs, Sep 9, 2003
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  3. Ercole Olivario

    der Guest

    Well, I bought one because I needed one, and it came last Friday. So
    I've been playing alot, especially with the compilers from IBM.
    Anyways, upgrading from a Beige G3 running OS X 10.2.6 it is a HUGE
    difference. I had no idea OS X was suppose to look like this or run
    like this. I've only got the 1.6GHz model and 256 MBytes of RAM but
    Classic boots in 9 seconds, and SETIatHome finishes a unit in about 2
    hours - while I'm doing stuff like copying GBytes of stuff over the
    network from my old drive. Heck even an old copy of Photoshop 4.0
    runs while all of my OS X stuff runs very fast. Haven't had time to
    try a boot from USB 2.0 or from Firewire. Haven't had any problems
    yet even after installing Epson drivers - which I find amazing. Most
    other 64-bit CPUs requires 64-bit drivers, but not this one. I'm very
    pleased. And sorry haven't kept track of boot times as I have a
    tendency to leave my computers on, especially new ones. And this is
    the first computer I've owned whose manual recommends only turning it
    off when you won't be using it for several days.
     
    der, Sep 9, 2003
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  4. I'm sorta doing the same. Mine's upgraded a bit, though.

    Wow, positive raving! Maybe I shouldn't wait long.
     
    Howard S Shubs, Sep 10, 2003
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  5. Yes, that's a tweaked 10.2.6 with G5 specific updates.
    10.2.8 "for the rest of us" is in late beta at the moment.

    http://www.thinksecret.com/

    Cheers,

    Matthew.
     
    Matthew Kirkcaldie, Sep 10, 2003
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  6. Ercole Olivario

    der Guest

    My Beige G3 was upgraded to a 533 G4, 768MBytes RAM, and a 10K RPM
    36GByte SCSI with an ATTO U160 Card. The SCSI setup in my G3, before
    the motherboard crapped out, got almost as good a Xbench score as the
    drive in the G5. I'm waiting for an external box to repackage the 36G
    drive and then I'm going to retest it on the G5. I do have one
    question though: The system software came on a DVD. When did they
    start this?
     
    der, Sep 10, 2003
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  7. Ercole Olivario

    Peter KERR Guest

    MDD G4 shipped with both CD and DVD OS installers.
    Presumably they couldn't guess which model drive
    any particular Mac might have, so a few pennies extra
    for the discs is nothing. However, if you have a
    Combo or Super drive and put in the CD it spits it out:

    The installer has detected that your Macintosh has a DVD drive.
    You should insert the DVD Mac OS X Install to ensure
    that all required software components are installed for
    your Macintosh.
     
    Peter KERR, Sep 11, 2003
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  8. Ercole Olivario

    Peter KERR Guest

    Keeper of the Purple Twilight mused:
    I got the impression some people were already running 10.2.7
    maybe the newest G4s. But if it's tweaked for those and/or G5
    then there's no point in the rest of us having it...

    Idle thought: 10.2.x is 32 bit, so until Panther ships
    there's no point installing more than 4G ram,
    or is it 8G = 4G per cpu chip?
     
    Peter KERR, Sep 11, 2003
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  9. Ercole Olivario

    stan Guest

    As far as I know, the only change in 10.2.7 from 10.2.6 is the
    ability of the OS to function within the 64-bit hardware environment
    that the G5 models bring to the table.
     
    stan, Sep 11, 2003
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  10. Ercole Olivario

    der Guest

    Well I think I've finally got an anomaly! I took the old ATTO/Apple
    OEM U160 card from my broke G3 Beige and put it in the top PCI clot
    and it ran fine .... until the G5 went to sleep. Then all the fans
    ran at full blast until I woke it back up. It did this every time the
    G5 would go to sleep. I finally took it out, but went ahead and put a
    Belkin 5-port USB 2.0 card in the middle PCI slot. No such problems
    anymore. I'll try it again in another slot when I get my external
    SCSI box. I'll try and find out if the larger SCSI card just happens
    to be under a temp sensor.
     
    der, Sep 11, 2003
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  11. Ercole Olivario

    Oliver Guest

    I think this behavior is not unusual for PCI cards that do not support
    full energy management. If plugged into a Mac the computer doesn't
    go into deep sleep mode. (I have this with a 3Dfx card in my UMAX clone)
    In the case of G5s, where the fans are controlled by the OS (bad idea, I think,
    btw) the fans go to maximum when the OS is not active.

    Oliver
     
    Oliver, Sep 12, 2003
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