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Toshiba 6100 review and question (lock up)

Discussion in 'Laptops' started by Mike Welch, Sep 11, 2003.

  1. Mike Welch

    Mike Welch Guest

    I've had my Toshiba 6100 for about 1.5 weeks now, and it's locked up 3
    times, cold. I have to unplug and remove the battery to restart it
    because there's not a reset...that I know of.

    I've seen a couple other references to this too. I'm a software
    developer in Dallas and don't need my machine hanging on me.

    Overall, I'm really impressed with it. I'm elated that the Winders
    keys are in the top right and not near my Ctrl/Alt keys for me to trip
    over all the time. I've also liked the eraser head pointing devices
    in the past and this one works as well as the ThinkPad I had in the
    past. I use a USB/wireless optical mouse though...still can't beat
    the wheel.

    The screen resolution and built-in dvd writer were top selling points,
    in addition to the pro OS (XP pro) and larger drive/RAM.

    Bummers:
    - Can handle up to 1024MB RAM, but comes with both RAM slots full of
    256MB sticks
    - Does run hot. Place on bed in winter, don't need a bed warmer ;)
    - USB 1.1 (pricegrabberDOTcom said it was 2.0...Toshiba's specs didn't
    say). Huge bummer here.
    - THIS LOCK UP PROBLEM (please help?!?)
    - Bundled CD/DVD burning software stinks. Had to buy Roxio EZ CD...
    - Arm rest kind of creeks over DVD drive. Case a little flimsy.
    - Of course, tinkering too much with XP required me to reinstall, and
    Toshiba doesn't give actual XP CD, just a preload reloader that boots
    to Win95/DOS and reformats. Data loss. Ugly.
    - Haven't had much sleep since I got it

    Plusesez:
    - Keyboard is awsome!
    - Native 1600x1200 screen res rocks!
    - Built in video RAM leaves my sys RAM alone
    - Layout of PgUp/Dn, Enter, etc makes sense to me
    - Built in wireless provides better reception than two PCMCIA cards I
    tried in the same machine (LinkSys and SMS..granted, cheaper wireless
    cards)
    - Sound system is decent. Not great, but beats the heck out of my old
    Fujitsu.
    - Light for it's capabilities
    - Built in SD is a great idea. CF would have been preferrable for me.
     
    Mike Welch, Sep 11, 2003
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  2. I have a different model (5200) but had intermittent lock-up problems
    when the internal wifi card was active. Updating the Atheros drivers
    to 2.3.2.4 solved the problem.

    See the thread "toshiba satellite 5200 and atheros 5001x minipci card
    problem" for more details.
     
    Alexei Machine, Sep 11, 2003
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  3. Mike Welch

    Mike Welch Guest

    Thanks. I did find an update, just posted. Oddly, the driver release
    date was earlier than my DVD-RW production date. It took them 9
    months to post the updated driver. Driver is also not the same
    version as yours. Must be different versions from model to model.
    Old (current) version is 2.1.1.10, same as just released a few days
    ago on their site. But, the build date is different. Drivers might
    be updated though. I'll install and see how it goes. If you never
    hear from me again, assume I never could get back online :)

    Title: Atheros WiFi Client Utility for Windows XP/2000
    Version: 2.1.1.10
    Size: 1,371,408 bytes
    Posted: 09/10/03
    Released Date: 12/05/02
    Operating System: Windows XP, Windows 2000

    I'll install this and see how it goes. Thanks!
     
    Mike Welch, Sep 12, 2003
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  4. Mike Welch

    George Mills Guest

    I tend to agree. I went from toshiba to IBM and I think toshiba keyboard and
    trackpoint is better.

    Don't feel bad my IBM is getting BSOD's when I add memory. 2 crucial cards
    and now testing an IBM card.

    As far as hang goes, get toshiba to swap it. Easy if you bought it direct or
    from reputable dealer.

    Gotta watch the memory config on any laptop you buy.

    99% of all laptops that are not centrino have USB 1.0

    You have to watch out for USB 2 (meaning 2 USB ports).

    P.S. get onsite service for 3 years it's cheap.
     
    George Mills, Sep 12, 2003
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  5. I didn't install the driver that was in my model's update page (since
    it was the same as the one I already had).

    I went to http://ts.toshiba.com and selected the P25-S607. That page
    has the 2.3.2.4 drivers.

    Just use XP's system restore to make a "save point" before you install
    the drivers. If they don't work, you'll be able to easily go back to
    your old ones.

    By the way, it took me quite a bit of tinkering before I could finally
    manage to install the drivers. I suggest removing any old ones before
    installing these, it might make the job easier. If you have an Atheros
    AR5001X card, there's no reason you should have to use old drivers
    instead of these.

    Three days now running wireless continuously (even while using a
    network cable at the same time) and no crashes... my laptop now seems
    to be rock solid.
     
    Alexei Machine, Sep 12, 2003
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  6. Mike Welch

    Mike Welch Guest

    Got 'em. Thanks.

    Why don't they have these for the T6100? It's clearly a later
    release. Is the T6100 a dead model?

    What other drivers are compatible with this machine?

    I haven't had frequent lockups. Just 2 or 3 in the last 2 weeks. So,
    it'll be hard to test.

    I will say this about the WiFi: I've inserted 2 other cards (an SMS,
    and a LinkSys) and neither of them pick up at the distance the
    built-in card does. It must be a pretty good card.

    If I lock up more, I'll give these a try. I'm a little chicken since
    it's for a different model.
     
    Mike Welch, Sep 16, 2003
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  7. They cured nearly all my lock-up problems. I've had a few since
    installing those drivers (a lot less than I used to, though.) Now, I
    think the touchpad is involved... If I'm running wireless and use a
    USB mouse, everything works fine. If I'm using the touchpad, it
    eventually freezes. It can take a couple of hours before the problem
    manifests itself, but every lock-up has occured while I was using the
    touchpad while on battery power and wireless.
     
    Alexei Machine, Sep 16, 2003
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