Updating Bios 1001-1014

Discussion in 'Asus' started by Shrub, Aug 23, 2006.

  1. Shrub

    Shrub Guest

    I got an A8N-Sli Mobo but i dont have a floppy drive is there a way to
    update the bios with a cd-rom drive?

    I tried chucking the Windows 98 disk in and got to dos but i cant see my
    hard drives due to NTFS format. I put the image on a cd with awdflash.exe
    but i cant backup the old image up so it wont flash.
     
    Shrub, Aug 23, 2006
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  2. Shrub

    Venom Guest

    That is sure a lot of stuffing around just to save a miserable $10 for a
    floppy drive.
    I have read about the guys who seem to think the humble floppy drive is now
    redundant and up to a point they're right. That is up to that point where
    one would be very handy like for safely flashing a bios chip. Note the word
    "safely" in there. It is your bios though and if you stuff it there is
    always www.badflash.com .
     
    Venom, Aug 23, 2006
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  3. Shrub

    Shrub Guest

    i can get a floppy but its a **** to do
     
    Shrub, Aug 23, 2006
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  4. Shrub

    Venom Guest

    What do you mean? Hard to fit?
     
    Venom, Aug 23, 2006
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  5. You could use Asus LiveUpdate. It does work.

    But I agree with Venom. I always install a FDD and update BIOS with it.

    John

    Please remove "NOSPAM" if sending email.
     
    John Hollingsworth, Aug 23, 2006
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  6. Shrub

    Hawk Guest

    I've done all of my A8N bios updates from within windows with the Asus update
    utility. Works without a hitch for me. I have not installed a floppy in my last
    2 builds...and have never hit a situation where I needed one (over 5+ years).
    These days when you can boot from cd, flash drive, etc. why bother.


    (*>
     
    Hawk, Aug 23, 2006
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  7. Shrub

    Venom Guest

    I am not casting aspersions on the OP here but some folks know their way
    around computers better than others and what works for you may turn into a
    nightmare for others.
     
    Venom, Aug 23, 2006
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  8. Shrub

    Shrub Guest

    yea i need to go to the other side of town and grab my mates one i havent
    had a floppy drive since 2001 i think about 3 computers ago.
     
    Shrub, Aug 24, 2006
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  9. Shrub

    Venom Guest

    Whatever floats yer boat then. On every new computer I put together for
    somebody is a floppy drive. Mostly for flashing but also there is still a
    lot of accountants out there who use floppies and lets not forget Memtest if
    a couple of sticks of ram are not playing well together. For something that
    only takes a minute or so with a floppy I can't be bothered making a
    bootable Cd.
     
    Venom, Aug 24, 2006
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  10. Shrub

    Natéag Guest

    You surely have a CD burner.
    If so, make an image (iso, nrg, whatever else) of the A8N install CD -
    using Nero, Easy Media Creator, or any other burning software.

    Open the image file; it will contain *.bin bios files. Add to it the latest
    Bios file available for your motherboard. Burn the CD.
    In the BIOS setup select the CD as your boot drive.
    Insert the CD.
    Boot. It should offer you the choice of updating the BIOS (read your
    manual).

    Of course it is easier with a floppy, a bootable memory key or CD.
    Your CD burning software may allow you to creade a bootable CD -
    to which you should add the BIOS *.binfile.
    ..
     
    Natéag, Aug 24, 2006
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  11. Shrub

    Hawk Guest

    Booting from a floppy to reflash the bios can be just as risky as any other
    method... There is no 100% safe way of doing it.


    (*>
     
    Hawk, Aug 24, 2006
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  12. Shrub

    edavid3001 Guest

    Booting from a floppy to reflash the bios can be just as risky as any other
    This motherboard has the ASUS CrashFree BIOS2.

    "The CrashFree BIOS2 feature now includes the BIOS auto-recovery
    function in a support CD. Users can reboot their system through the
    support CD when a bootable disk is not available, and go through the
    simple BIOS auto-recovery process. ASUS motherboards now enable users
    to enjoy this protection feature without the need to pay for an
    optional ROM. "


    Is it still unsafe to do a flash upgrade?
     
    edavid3001, Aug 24, 2006
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  13. Shrub

    Hawk Guest

    I was responding to this comment. If everything does not work 100% it may or may
    not be a "nightmare". My definition of nightmare may be significantly different
    from other peoples.

    For some, just realizing that you can boot from the cd included with the mobo to
    reflash may fall into the nightmare category due to ignorance of that capability.

    My point was that booting from a floppy to reflash is no guarantee that things
    will go as planned. The inference I drew from his comment was that he thought the
    utility that allows reflashing directly from windows was somehow more unsafe. I
    would disagree with that. There are means of a botched reflash no matter what
    method you use, and all can have equally messy fixes.


    (*>
     
    Hawk, Aug 24, 2006
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  14. Shrub

    Venom Guest

    This is all true but being the lazy bugger that I am and not owning or
    building cost critical computers I always throw in a floppy drive. Quite a
    few of the newer boards need to have the latest version bios update to
    recognise the CPU being used and this is where I elect to jam the floppy in
    and hit Alt+F2 from the first boot but, as I say, I am too lazy to root
    around flashing in all the other wonderful ways that are available to us and
    that includes whipping up a bootable CD.
    You also missed my point that there are Accountants still out there who, as
    unusual as this sounds, still use floppies.
    I also get calls from people asking for help to do something or whatever to
    their computer and I will say double click something just to get us going in
    the right direction and instantly and with 100% innocence, their next
    question will be "is that a left click or a right click"?
    I seem to be unlucky enough to not be surrounded by IT specialists I guess.
     
    Venom, Aug 25, 2006
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  15. Shrub

    Travic

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    why not just buy a cheap USB flash pen and use that.
     
    Travic, Aug 25, 2006
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  16. Shrub

    Natéag Guest

    One can also use HP Drive Key Boot Utility to format a USB key as a
    diskette -
    but a bootable diskette image has to be available, or a floopy drive and a
    bootable
    diskette. The utilitty is free. It can be found on HP's Web site.

    The USB key will only have 1,4 ko available; but it can be reformated in
    Windows
    to revert to its full size.
     
    Natéag, Aug 25, 2006
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  17. Shrub

    milleron Guest

    I have several old drives that were scavenged from old computers
    before sending them off for recycling. If I ever need a floppy, it's
    SO easy to pop the case and plug one in temporarily. There's no need
    to mount it permanently -- just put it on a shoe box or stool or
    something next to the open computer while you flash.

    As inexpensive as floppy drives are, even if you don't have one
    installed permanently, it's rather short-sighted not to just leave one
    (with a ribbon cable) on the shelf for times like this.

    Ron
     
    milleron, Aug 26, 2006
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  18. Shrub

    Venom Guest

    "milleron" wrote in message
    I agree. I think it is some sort of modern thing to be able to say that they
    are sooo clever they haven't used an outdated floppy in years. On the other
    hand you have the guy who doesn't really use his computer for anything
    usefull and just likes to play around with it.
     
    Venom, Aug 26, 2006
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