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well that its not working with my mobo and this is the retail package for the mobo... "--=[T.F]=--" skrev i meddelandet

well it does not work on my abit IC7-G...
why????
Tommu
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flashmenu is a dangerous approach at best. stay with DOS mode flashes or use the built in Alt-F2 feature with a floppy that has the bios on it.
 
I used the Abit Flashmenu on my BE7-Raid board. It appears to be working fine. After following the step by step instructions my pc did not reboot as it should have, after clicking the finish/reboot button. After leaving the system on for six hours I turned it off and back on to find that the BIOS upgrade worked. I upgrade my board from the original "BS" bios to "DP" and have been running four days now. I did have problems with Easy CD Creator but, that's for another newsgroup.

need a little help.
"TomG" wrote:

flashmenu is a dangerous approach at best. stay with DOS mode flashes or use the built in Alt-F2 feature with a floppy that has the bios on it.

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hmmm...
I didnt ask for your permission to use it right? i ask why i dont work... or?

Regards
Tommy

"TomG" skrev i meddelandet

flashmenu is a dangerous approach at best. stay with DOS mode flashes or use the built in Alt-F2 feature with a floppy that has the bios on it.

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Thomas Geery
Network+ certified

ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 113,000 FTP users served!
...
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:04:56 -0400, TomG wrote:

flashmenu is a dangerous approach at best. stay with DOS mode flashes or use the built in Alt-F2 feature with a floppy that has the bios on it.
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With windows 2000 and XP i really don't think it's much more "dangerous" than flashing a BIOS via the traditional way. The biggest dangers being either a power cut or a windows crash. I can't remember the last time windows XP crashed on me. It's certainly very unlikely when you aren't doing anything to stress the system.

I'm sure Abit must believe the same if they are introducing this program officially. I think it's time that all manufacturers made an effort to ditch the floppy drive for good, it's extremely antiquated and unreliable and badly in need of retirement.
 
I maintain my stand that Flashmenu is a risky approach. Abit has never pushed that approach with any real zeal and that is because even they are not sure how well it works across the spectrum.
 
and my statement was only a recommendation. do you run with a Bios Savior? having that piece of hardware installed as a bios backup would be about the only way I would use Flashmenu.

you have at it and with any luck, it will work for you and not trash your bios. feel free to not respond to my posts or filter me if you find them objectionable and I'll do the same for you.
 
each to their own. with a bios savior installed, I'd probably try it but for me, a good old DOS flash is the only way to go until Abit comes out with something that even they feel a little more robust about.
 
--=[T.F]=-- wrote:

hmmm...
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Thats 'hi_C' above F ...
not quite the consonant dissonance 'we' use around 'here' ...

Try 'HMMmmm' ... :-)

I didnt ask for your permission to use it right?
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Correct.

TomG was merely advising you of the 'common wisdom(cw)' surrounding the issue of flashers 'flashing' an eeprom ... "U" use his 'cw' , or not, as you chose.

i ask why i dont work...
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I am 'told' that the reason DOS_nnn is a better platform to use in flashing is that there is no 'extender(DOS)' with which to contend, and also that there is no 'protected' mode either ... Simpler is better_er ... the 'code' doing the flashing isnt subject to the vaguaries('v') of extenders &/or p_mode . Added theres also a 'side' issue of the "C" code used ... more 'v' added. I do believe that most DOS based flashers are written in assembler.

Visit Wimm's Bios page and ask there also ...

Me?
I boot a DOS flpy, use the AWD asslr flasher , and also use a Bio Savour ... belt & suspenders approach.

When the "day" arrives,
that a "C" coded, "Win" 'flasher' achieves a bullet_proof reputation ... =maybe= I'll consider it. Meanwhile, I'll let the adventurous 'masses' preceed me gladly. <VBFG>

:-)
Qed.
 
Martyn wrote:

With windows 2000 and XP i really don't think it's much more "dangerous" than flashing a BIOS via the traditional way. The biggest dangers being either a power cut or a windows crash. I can't remember the last time windows XP crashed on me.
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:-)
Thank you for 'that' last addon.

When the term " Windows crash " stops being an oxymoron ... I'll 'look' at a Win flasher.

It's certainly very unlikely when you aren't
doing anything to stress the system.
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How many XP 'users' can properly guage OS "stress" ???

DOS, being at once a single_user/single_task OS, seems the more prudent, current 'choice' for a "flasher" ... no?

I'm sure Abit must believe the same if they are introducing this program officially.
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Abit 'releases' much that leaves "much" to be desired ... hdwr/sftwr/manuals/et al ...

Me?
I think I'll wait till the (user) pre_alpha test period is finished.

I think it's time that all manufacturers made an effort to ditch the floppy drive for good, it's extremely antiquated and unreliable and badly in need of retirement.
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Perhaps 'too' ... right-hand drive motor vehicles ... ??? Added ... the English 'Units' system which I now use ... ??? Dunno. Embedded 'conventions' are tough to kill.

:-)
Qed.
 
TomG wrote:
I maintain my stand that Flashmenu is a risky approach.
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"Would" only that the Old Man of the Mountain ( NH White mountains ) have been 'founded' thusly ... your 'stand'.

Abit has never
pushed that approach with any real zeal and that is because even they are not sure how well it works across the spectrum.
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" ... across the spectrum. " ....

Good 'way' to describe 'enormity' ... :-)

Qed.
 
"TomG" wrote:

and my statement was only a recommendation. do you run with a Bios Savior? having that piece of hardware installed as a bios backup would be about the only way I would use Flashmenu.
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How often does Flashmenu cause a problem? I updated my BH6 BIOs twice using flashmenu off a floppy and had no problems either time.
 
The first generation of Flashmenu barely worked. if Flashmenu fails even once, it is too often for me as the board would then most likely be dead unless you have a Bios Savior.
 
Flashmenu Checks the BIOS after install to make sure it's working. If there was a failure, you could flash back to your old bios before rebooting.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:31:36 -0400, TomG wrote:

The first generation of Flashmenu barely worked. if Flashmenu fails even once, it is too often for me as the board would then most likely be dead unless you have a Bios Savior.
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unless the bios chip is incompletely flashed and you cannot boot at all, eh?
 
TomG wrote:
unless the bios chip is incompletely flashed and you cannot boot at all, eh?
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But but but but but but ....

Do you deny the 'reality' of Cargo Cult Science ???

"It" executes ergo "it" works.

Oh My!!

Qed.

PS- Wait Wait !!
. Theres MORE !!!
. Build yer own 'dock' and the cargo ship will come.
 
I used the Abit Flashmenu on my BE7-Raid board. It appears to be working fine. After following the step by step instructions my pc did not reboot as it should have, after clicking the finish/reboot button. After leaving the system on for six hours I turned it off and back on to find that the BIOS upgrade worked. I upgrade my board from the original "BS" bios to "DP" and have been running four days now. I did have problems with Easy CD Creator but, that's for another newsgroup.

"--=[T.F]=--" wrote:

well it does not work on my abit IC7-G...
why????
Tommu
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