Users folder being hidden with iTunes 11.2 installed and Find MyMac enabled?

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    Ant Guest

    Is anyone else seeing this? I am scared to upgrade iTunes in Mac OS X
    10.8.5. :/
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    David Empson Guest

    There is no reason to be "scared".

    If you have a specific need to access /Users/Shared, or the home or
    public folder of other user accounts, then even if /Users is hidden, it
    is easily worked around, e.g. by creating a symbolic link to the folder,
    or navigating up to /Users from your home folder, or by using Go to
    Folder in Finder, or by adding the folder in question to your Finder

    I tested upgrading to iTunes 11.2 on a Mac running 10.8.5 with Find my
    Mac enabled and the /Users folder was NOT hidden. I restarted to
    double-check and it was still OK.

    Unless there is yet another factor involved, it appears that the hiding
    of the Users folder is a bug which only affects Mavericks. I've seen
    reports so far of people encountering it when running OS X 10.9.2 and

    The solution is easy enough: disable Find my Mac until Apple releases a
    fix for this bug.

    If your /Users and /Users/Shared folders have already been hidden by
    this bug, then you can make them visible again by:

    1. In System Preferences > iCloud, disable "Find my Mac". (This bug has
    nothing to do with "Back to my Mac".)

    2. Try using Disk Utility to do a Repair Disk Permissions on your
    startup volume.

    3. If that doesn't work, then the following commands in Terminal will
    restore the normal visibility and permissions.

    sudo chflags nohidden /Users /Users/Shared
    sudo chmod 755 /Users
    sudo chmod 1777 /Users/Shared

    (Step 1 is necessary. If you have iTunes 11.2 installed and Find my Mac
    enabled on Mavericks, then these folders will be hidden and their
    permissions modified again each time you restart the computer.)
    David Empson, May 17, 2014
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    David Empson Guest

    Update: Apple has just released iTunes 11.2.1, which apparently fixes
    this bug, so no need to be scared at all.
    David Empson, May 17, 2014
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    JF Mezei Guest

    hiding a folder is security by obscurity and adds no security.

    The question is: what the h_ll is an application meddling with root
    level directories ? Upgrading itunes should only mess with what is
    inside /Applications/iTunes and in /Library for whatever frameworks it
    JF Mezei, May 17, 2014
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    Ant Guest

    I just got an e-mail notification from Apple's security mailing list. ... Nice.
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    amber, a more than royal tomb." --Sir Francis Bacon in Historia Vitæ et
    Mortis; Sylva Sylvarum, Cent. i. Exper. 100.
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    Alan Baker Guest

    Someone made a mistake. Mistakes happen.

    My best guess about the nature of the mistake would be a space in a
    unix command that was intended to hide some other folder, so that
    "chflags hidden /Users/<something>/<something>" became "chflags hidden
    /Users /<something>/<something>"
    Alan Baker, May 17, 2014
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    David Empson Guest

    The iTunes installer puts things in /Library, /System, /Applications and
    also does some stuff in /Users/Shared.
    That was my theory as well.

    I had a look inside the installer packages for iTunes 11.2 and 11.2.1.
    The 11.2.1 postinstall script fixes the permissions and hidden folders
    errors, but I didn't spot what was triggering the problem in 11.2,
    especially how it was interacting with Find my Mac or recurring on each
    restart (which suggests it was being done by something installed which
    runs at system startup or login).

    The only difference I spotted in the installed files (apart from version
    numbers) was a change in size of
    David Empson, May 17, 2014
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Why do sentences like

    "... might appear to be missing after ..."

    seem so inane to me?
    Alan Browne, May 17, 2014
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    Tom Stiller Guest

    Tom Stiller, May 17, 2014
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    Lewis Guest

    Why? A hidden /User folder will not affect you in the slightest.

    My /System /Library and /Users folders are all marked hidden, so when I
    look at the 'root' of my drive, all that is there is the /Applications

    This has no effect on how I use the computer.
    Lewis, May 17, 2014
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    JF Mezei Guest

    The part I am uncomfortable with is an application that messes with
    stuff outside of the application areas without telling you.

    BTW, iTunes still keeps installing an incompatible AppleUSBEthernet.kext
    for Snow Leopard. So with each itunes updates, one has to go out and
    mess with the system files to reinstall an older version that works.
    JF Mezei, May 17, 2014
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    David Empson Guest

    iTunes is more than just an application. It has several system-level
    components to support iOS devices, non-iOS iPods, other applications
    integrating with iTunes, and interaction with the iTunes Store.
    Have you filed a bug report about it yet?

    I'm looking forward to the hue and cry that will happen in a few months
    when Apple releases iOS 8 along with a new version of iTunes which will
    be required to manage or sync with devices running iOS 8.

    Assuming the historic pattern holds (and I see no reason why it
    wouldn't), that version of iTunes won't support Snow Leopard at all.

    Those who are sticking with Snow Leopard indefinitely will need to stop
    buying new iOS devices, and for existing devices either lose the ability
    to sync them with the Mac, or not update them to iOS 8 or later (which
    will expose them to known security issues, since Apple won't release
    further iOS 7 updates for devices able to upgrade to iOS 8).
    David Empson, May 18, 2014
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    Lewis Guest

    iTunes is no more an Application than Safari or QuickTime, they are
    required parts of the Operating system that install much more than just
    an .app bundle.
    Lewis, May 18, 2014
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    JF Mezei Guest

    Yet, it is "packaged" as an application (also avaialble on Windows) and
    they don't really document all the system level changes installing a
    minor new version of the itunes application does.
    JF Mezei, May 18, 2014
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    billy Guest

    Because they are. Better to say what the problem
    actually is. Apple have been improving with this
    but they are obviously not yet finished.

    Billy Y..
    billy, May 18, 2014
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    billy Guest

    I am reminded of CUPS in the days of OS 10.3 and 10.4.

    Billy Y..
    billy, May 18, 2014
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    J Burns Guest

    I'll have to side with Apple on this one. They aren't missing but might
    appear to be missing.
    J Burns, May 18, 2014
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    Yeah, and you were your parents biggest mistake.
    Puffin Killer, May 19, 2014
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    Alan Baker Guest

    Alan Baker, May 20, 2014
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