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Discussion in 'ATI' started by Zhang Weiwu, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Zhang Weiwu

    Zhang Weiwu Guest

    Hello. I have MSI RD480 Neo2 motherboard, a "CrossFire Xpress 3200"
    motherboard (or so called "AMD 580X Crossfire chipset"). My original
    PCI-E Radeon card is labeled (by a sticker) X1650. I purchased another
    PCI-E Radeon card from the same vendor which looks almost identical to
    the old one, also sticker-labeled X1650, with only slight difference
    that one has a power supply slot and the other doesn't. Any one of the
    two works fine when used standalone. Now I installed both, and went to
    BIOS setting, enabled Dual Slot GFX support, think I am ready to run in
    cross fire mode.

    According to discussion on the Internet the next and last thing I should
    do is to enable crossfire mode in CCC, but there is no option for it
    even though my CCC (version 2010.0210) can correctly recognize that I
    have two ATI cards installed.

    I start to doubt if something is wrong with the driver, or is the
    crossfire mode requirement very strict. CCC reports one card as "ATI
    Radeon X1650" and another as "Radeon X1600 Serials". It can happen that
    although both cards have a sticker of X1650 one might be actually X1600.
    Is it true that both card must be strictly the same in order to run
    CrossFire? How strict?

    The following is detail configuration of all my PCI and PCI-E cards,
    output from lspci(1) utility on Linux: (If you are only interested in
    Radeon cards, do a search of "VGA compatible controller")

    00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01)
    Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Kernel modules: ati-agp

    00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI-X Root Port
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
    I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff
    Memory behind bridge: ddd00000-dddfffff
    Prefetchable memory behind bridge: b0000000-bfffffff
    Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
    BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
    PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel modules: shpchp

    00:03.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a35
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
    I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
    Memory behind bridge: dde00000-ddefffff
    Prefetchable memory behind bridge: c0000000-cfffffff
    Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- <SERR- <PERR-
    BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
    PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel modules: shpchp

    00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
    Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Capabilities: <access denied>

    00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
    Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

    00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
    Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

    00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
    Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Kernel driver in use: k8temp
    Kernel modules: k8temp

    00:19.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation M5249 HTT to PCI Bridge
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR+ <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=64
    I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000efff
    Memory behind bridge: ddf00000-ddffffff
    Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fff00000-000fffff
    Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR+ <PERR+
    BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
    PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel modules: shpchp

    00:1c.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10)
    Subsystem: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
    Latency: 64 (20000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
    Region 0: Memory at ddce3000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
    Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

    00:1c.1 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10)
    Subsystem: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
    Latency: 64 (20000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 18
    Region 0: Memory at ddce2000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
    Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

    00:1c.2 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10)
    Subsystem: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
    Latency: 64 (20000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 19
    Region 0: Memory at ddce1000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
    Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

    00:1c.3 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 20)
    Subsystem: ALi Corporation Device 5238
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
    Latency: 64 (4000ns min, 8000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 23
    Region 0: Memory at ddce0c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

    00:1d.0 Audio device: ALi Corporation High Definition Audio/AC'97 Host Controller
    Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7194
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 64 (4000ns min, 20000ns max)
    Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 22
    Region 0: Memory at ddccc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
    Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

    00:1e.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation PCI to LPC Controller (rev 31)
    Subsystem: ALi Corporation PCI to LPC Controller
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0 (250ns min, 6000ns max)

    00:1e.1 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
    Subsystem: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
    Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Kernel modules: alim7101_wdt, i2c-ali15x3, i2c-ali1535

    00:1f.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c7) (prog-if fa)
    Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7194
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 32
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
    Region 0: [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
    Region 1: [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
    Region 2: [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
    Region 3: [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
    Region 4: I/O ports at ff00
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: pata_ali
    Kernel modules: pata_ali

    00:1f.1 RAID bus controller: ALi Corporation ULi 5287 SATA (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7194
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
    Region 0: I/O ports at a800
    Region 1: I/O ports at a400
    Region 2: I/O ports at a000
    Region 3: I/O ports at 9800
    Region 4: I/O ports at 9400
    Region 5: Memory at ddce0800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: sata_uli
    Kernel modules: sata_uli

    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530LE [Radeon X1600]
    Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2552
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
    Region 0: Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
    Region 2: Memory at dddf0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
    Region 4: I/O ports at b000
    Expansion ROM at dddc0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: radeon
    Kernel modules: radeon

    01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 71ee
    Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2553
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Region 0: Memory at ddde0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>

    02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Series (rev 9a)
    Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2542
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19
    Region 0: Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
    Region 2: Memory at ddef0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
    Region 4: I/O ports at c000
    Expansion ROM at ddec0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: radeon
    Kernel modules: radeon

    02:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Series (Secondary) (rev 9a)
    Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 2543
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Region 0: Memory at ddee0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>

    03:10.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
    Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 8065
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 64 (500ns min, 5000ns max)
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 20
    Region 0: I/O ports at e800
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy
    Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1

    03:10.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 0a)
    Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 0020
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 64
    Region 0: I/O ports at e400
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: Emu10k1_gameport
    Kernel modules: emu10k1-gp

    03:14.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 46) (prog-if 10)
    Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 194d
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 64 (8000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22
    Region 0: Memory at ddff7800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
    Region 1: I/O ports at e000
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: ohci1394
    Kernel modules: firewire-ohci, ohci1394

    03:16.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
    Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 194c
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 64 (8000ns min, 16000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 23
    Region 0: I/O ports at d800
    Region 1: Memory at ddff7400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
    Expansion ROM at ddfc0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: r8169
    Kernel modules: r8169
     
    Zhang Weiwu, Sep 22, 2010
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  2. Zhang Weiwu

    Zhang Weiwu Guest

    For this I have 2 other notes.

    1. One card is labeled "X1650GT 256HM DDR3", the other is labeled
    "X1650 256HM DDR3". These sticker-labels are from the vendor
    instead of from resellers thus more reliable.
    2. I am pretty sure both board have identical circuit board, because
    even the smallest capacitors on them are located in exactly the
    same place, although I could not be sure the chip being the same,
    because they are beneath the fans. I am confident that any
    consumer (means non-professional) would think they are the same card.
     
    Zhang Weiwu, Sep 22, 2010
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  3. Zhang Weiwu

    Zhang Weiwu Guest

    There is a mistake in this description. MSI RD480 Neo2 motherboard
    actually is CrossFire Xpress 1600 motherboard, or AMD 480X. The mistake
    is from mis-writting in my notebook.

    There was a page about combination of different ATI cards of the
    software crossfire. But it was removed several years ago.

    http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/demos/en/combinations.html

    The new chart is on a new URI with only CrossfireX cards.
     
    Zhang Weiwu, Sep 27, 2010
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  4. Zhang Weiwu

    GMAN Guest

    Nonesense, I own a retail boxed X1650 ATI card.

    Not a rebadged unit.
     
    GMAN, Sep 27, 2010
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