Windows 7?

Discussion in 'Apple' started by ErikRS, May 15, 2014.

  1. ErikRS

    Lewis Guest

    My solution would be to get a cracked copy. Problem solved.
     
    Lewis, May 17, 2014
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  2. The OEM disk is a valid copy. Got it from TigerDirect. Came with all the
    certificates. It validated when I first installed it, but when I had to
    install it again, it didn't validate any more and I had to call for
    authorization codes. I paid good money for it, so why isn't it a valid
    copy?
     
    Michael Vilain, May 17, 2014
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  3. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    Could be, but since I sometimes also have to contact Microsoft, when I'm
    testing the various appications, it wouldn't be that nice to have a
    cracked copy. - The nice thing would be if MS would sponsor me with a
    legal copy.:)

    As already written I have a full legal Parallels 6.x laying on the
    writing table just waiting to be installed with a Windows 7 version...
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    ErikRS, May 17, 2014
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  4. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    Could be, but since I sometimes also have to contact Microsoft, when I'm
    testing the various appications, it wouldn't be that nice to have a
    cracked copy. - The nice thing would be if MS would sponsor me with a
    legal copy.:)

    As already written I have a full legal Parallels 6.x laying on the
    writing table just waiting to be installed with a Windows 7 version...

    Cheers, Erik Richard

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    ErikRS, May 17, 2014
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  5. ErikRS

    Your Name Guest

    OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer
    Such a version is inly valid when installed on the original computer it
    came with, as intended. Anyone selling OEM versions separately is
    breaking their Microsoft agreement, and the law in some countries.
     
    Your Name, May 17, 2014
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  6. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    No, they aren't! If you buy either Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion
    you're legalized to buy an OEM version of a given Microsoft windows version!

    Also some stores/resellers are legalized to sell OEM Windows systems,
    when they at the same time sell a piece of hardware that can be used
    with the computer to which the system is intended.

    Selling Windows versions - i.e. fx. to a standard self-built PC isnot legal!

    When I bought my Parallels Desktop 4.x I bought it along with a OEM ver.
    of Microsoft Windows XPPro SP2/DK - and that at a Mac reseller store here.

    Cheers, Erik Richard

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    ErikRS, May 18, 2014
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  7. ErikRS

    Your Name Guest

    No, they aren't![/QUOTE]

    Yes, they are. "OEM" version *MUST* come with the "Original Equipment"
    and that is where the software in *ONLY* allowed to be installed /
    reinstalled ... hence the term "OEM". :-\

    The manufacturer pays a special license fee to include the software
    with their equipment. Most of the companies making Windows PCs have
    such a deal.

    Anyone selling "OEM" versions of software *separately* is breaking that
    license agreement, if not also the law. In some cases "OEM" labelled
    software is simply mass-pirated versions by unlicensed retailers.



    Assuming it was a legal pack, then that is because those VMWare /
    Parallels (or Virtual PC on 'classic' Macs) or in some case the
    retailer has paid the license fee to be allowed to legally bundle an
    OEM verison of Windows, with the Desktop / Fusion virtual computer
    being the "Original Equipment" it is to be used with. Again, if you
    install that version on a proper PC or even under Boot Camp, then you
    are breaking the licence aggreement.
     
    Your Name, May 18, 2014
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  8. ErikRS

    Lewis Guest

    In message <ll91t5$lbj$>
    Yes, but the person you are responding to believes you should pull your
    car onto the shoulder to change the radio station, adjust the heat, or
    blink your eyes.
     
    Lewis, May 18, 2014
    #28
  9. ErikRS

    Paul Sture Guest

    Balderdash. You can buy OEM distributions separately from a computer.

    They also come with software to build your own custom installation and
    "first boot startup experience", and strictly speaking you are supposed
    to resell the computer, but Microsoft have never enforced this.

    From a pro-Microsoftie:

    <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/is-it-ok-to-use-oem-windows-on-your-own-pc-dont-ask-microsoft/1561>

    and a bit more:

    <http://www.everything-microsoft.com/2009/11/16/the-oem-eula-mystery-unravelled/>

    Since Windows 8 came out they have apparently changed their stance, and
    specifically allow you to run it on a computer you build yourself, or in
    a separate partition or virtual machine

    <http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-radically-overhauls-license-agreements-for-windows-8-7000002866/>
     
    Paul Sture, May 18, 2014
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  10. ErikRS

    Your Name Guest

    OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER
    How difficult is that to understand?? :-\
     
    Your Name, May 18, 2014
    #30
  11. "Davoud" wrote in message
    Puffin Killer:
    Because your Mac can't run a bunch of programs, why get angry at me?
    Call Tim Cook and complain to him.

    Perhaps he will tell you to GFYS.
     
    Puffin Killer, May 18, 2014
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  12. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    Sigh! You're more fatheaded than I thought.:-(!! - How difficult is it
    for you to understand - what I've already told you - /IT IS LEGAL TO
    SELL MS OEM PRODUCTS, WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO/ - for example
    along with Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion - or for that matter -
    with Microsoft's own VirtualPC?

    Stop now before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself than you
    already have done....

    Cheers, Erik Richard

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    ErikRS, May 19, 2014
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  13. ErikRS

    Your Name Guest

    Sigh! You're more fatheaded than I thought.:-(!! - How difficult is it
    for you to understand - what I've already told you - /IT IS LEGAL TO
    SELL MS OEM PRODUCTS, WHEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO/ - for example
    along with Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion - or for that matter -
    with Microsoft's own VirtualPC?[/QUOTE]

    Because, as I already said, the Parallels Desktop / Fusion virtual
    computer is the "Original Equipment" from the licensed "manufacturer",
    Parallels / VMWare. It's a bundle deal, same as having the OEM version
    come with a real computer. You still aren't meant to install that
    version on any other device or virtualisation / emulation product. It's
    ONLY FOR USE WITH THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT.

    Plus, as you've just said, they have a *licence* to bundle it, which is
    what I said all along.

    Anyone selling OEM products *SEPARATELY* or installing that software on
    other equipment is breaking the OEM agreement, and in some places that
    is illegal (which is why it's often dodgey Asian webstores that sell
    OEM products separately).

    Good grief! I know words with more than one syllable are difficult for
    most Internet users to understand since they switch their brains off
    when turning on the modem, but it ain't exactly rocket science.

    OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER,
    ie. the manufacturer licensed to bundle the OEM software with their
    equipment. :-\
     
    Your Name, May 19, 2014
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  14. ErikRS

    Lewis Guest

    In message <llbfch$dgd$>
    You're arguing with a moron. You can't win, he will still be a moron.
     
    Lewis, May 19, 2014
    #34
  15. ErikRS

    Alan Baker Guest

    Why do you imagine anyone is angry with you, Michael?
     
    Alan Baker, May 19, 2014
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  16. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    Yeah, sadly so, - I think he's beyond any kind of reach...

    Cheers, Erik Richard

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    ErikRS, May 19, 2014
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  17. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    His name is 'Puffin' - not 'Putin'.:)

    Cheers, Erik Richard

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    ErikRS, May 19, 2014
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  18. "Alan Baker" wrote in message
    Widdle man needs attention?
     
    Puffin Killer, May 19, 2014
    #38
  19. ErikRS

    Your Name Guest

    Yeah, sadly so, - I think he's beyond any kind of reach...[/QUOTE]

    Because you too stupid to understand that OEM = ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT
    MANUFACTURER means, even when it's spelt out for you. The average
    Internet user gets dumber by the second. :-(
     
    Your Name, May 19, 2014
    #39
  20. ErikRS

    ErikRS Guest

    Normally I wouldn't mention what I've been doing in the years... But I
    have been a registered and authorized MS reseller and supporter through
    all the years from 1993 to 2007 where I had my own business. - And - I
    was *authorized* to sell OEM products legally! *EOD*

    Cheers, Erik Richard

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    ErikRS, May 19, 2014
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