Yes again the old debate WEll im looking to buy a new laptop and im really stuck on toshiba My price limit is about $1400-1500, I've heard stories from everyone downing all the companies. Salesmen at a computer store tell me that dells are very poorly built and unless u fork out alot of money there really just crap. And people have told me that toshiba are great just have alot of software problem. The only real thing ive heard bad about Hp is there pricy. IM looking for somthing that will alow me to do photo editing (cs3), minor gaming(ill upgrade the battery), SChool work, Music/movies, and with an n wifi. So heres my choices Toshiba Satellite A200-ST2043 PSAF6UTCEDHC $1242.40 CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor* T7700 (2.40GHz, 4MB L2, 800MHz FSB) Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-Bit Office Software: Microsoft® Office 2007 Suite Ready Memory: 2048MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (1024MBx2) LCD: 15.4" Diagonal Widescreen WXGA TruBrite® display (1280x800) Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 2600 with 256MB GDDR2 discrete memory + up to 255MB allocated shared graphics memory HDD: 300GB HDD (4200rpm, Serial-ATA) Optical Media: DVD SuperMulti (DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive Mini-PCI/WiFi: Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN (802.11a/g/n) Bluetooth: Bluetooth® Version 2.0 +EDR Speaker: harmon/kardon® Speakers Battery: Lithium Ion battery (9-Cell, 6000mAh) Satellite P300-ST3014 PSPC4UTCF53F $1334.40 CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T9300 (2.5GHz, 6MB L2, 800MHz FSB) Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic 32-Bit Office Software: Microsoft® Office 2007 Suite Ready Memory: 4096MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (2048MBx2) LCD: 17.0" Diagonal Widescreen WXGA+ TruBrite® display (1440x900) Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3650 with 512MB DDR2 discrete memory + up to 255MB allocated shared graphics memory HDD: 200GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA) Optical Media: DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive Mini-PCI/WiFi: Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN (802.11a/g/n) Battery: Lithium Ion battery (9-Cell, 6000mAh) Satellite M300-ST4060 PSMD4UTCFGS7 $1199.20 CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T9300 (2.5GHz, 6MB L2, 800MHz FSB) Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic 32-Bit Office Software: Microsoft® Office 2007 Suite Ready Memory: 2048MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (2048MBx1) LCD: 14.1" Diagonal Widescreen WXGA TruBrite® display (1280x800) Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3470 with 256MB DDR2 discrete memory + up to 255MB allocated shared graphics memory HDD: 200GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA) Optical Media: DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive Mini-PCI/WiFi: Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN (802.11a/g/n) Bluetooth: Bluetooth® Version 2.1 +EDR Battery: Lithium Ion battery (9-Cell, 6000mAh) Dell XPS M1530 $1,513 My Components Tuxedo Black Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB, 3MB Cache) Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 Glossy, widescreen 15.4 inch LCD (1280x800) & 2.0 MP Camera 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms) Size: 250GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive Slot Load DVD+/-RW (DVD/CD read/write) 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT Dell Wireless 1505 Wireless-N Mini-card Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0+Enhanced Data Rate) 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy HD Software Edition Finger Print Reader Studio 17 $1,343 Graphite Grey with Black Trim Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB/3MB cache) Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 Glossy widescreen 17.0 inch display (1440x900) 256MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3650 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 Size: 250GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) 8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Dell 1397 Wireless-G Card Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam 85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ Advanced HD Software Edition Integrated Finger Print Reader Back-lit Keyboard Studio 15 $1,418 Graphite Grey with Red Trim Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB/3MB cache) Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 Glossy, widescreen 15.4 inch display (1280x800) 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) 8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Dell 1510 Wireless-N Card Verizon Wireless built-in cellular mobile broadband (EVDO Rev A) Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam 85 Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ Advanced HD Software Edition Integrated Finger Print Reader Back-lit Keyboard HP dv5z $1,331 Operating system Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit) Processor AMD Turion(TM) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processor ZM-82 (2.2GHz) Display 15.4" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Infinity Widescreen Display (1280 x 800) Memory 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) Graphics card 256MB ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3450 Graphics Hard drive 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection Personalization [For BrightView Infinity] Webcam + Fingerprint Reader edit Keyboard HP Color Matching Keyboard Networking 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth Modem Port No High speed 56K modem port Primary CD/DVD drive LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support Primary battery High Capacity 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery HP Pavilion dv9700t $1,648.99(FREE SHIPPING LOL) * – Upgrade to Genuine Windows Vista Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (64-bit) * – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.10GHz) * – 17.0" diagonal WXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1440 x 900) * – 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) * – 50% OFF 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS * – 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive * – Webcam + Fingerprint Reader * – Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection and Bluetooth(TM) * – LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support * – No TV Tuner w/remote control * – High Capacity 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery * – Microsoft(R) Works 9.0 * – HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope HP Pavilion dv2700t Special Edition $1,548.99 * – Upgrade to Genuine Windows Vista Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (64-bit) * – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.10GHz) * – 14.1" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800) * – 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) * – 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS * – 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive * – Webcam + Fingerprint Reader * – Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network w/Bluetooth * – LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support * – No TV Tuner w/remote control * – 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery * – Microsoft(R) Works 9.0 * – HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope So any help would be really appreciated, and if u want to build me a laptop elsewhere for my needs and price range that would be appreciated as well Thanks in adavanced for all your time and help -Red